Obama's Unspoken "Bargain" With America - Page 4

bhkad · #31 (**permalink**) 08-28-2008, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

At times this just passes both "ridiculous" and "completely absurd" to the point where even Peter Pan would look at you and think "what kind of craziness are you talking about"...

Suppose we are back in history and we have an occurrence where we have the first black member of a previously all white history.
Like the Baseball Hall of Fame.

Do we note the historic event? Yes.
Does that mean that the reason the black person was admitted was BECAUSE he was black? NO!

People trying to equate others ACKNOWLEDGING the historic landmark with the REASONS FOR the historic landmark are really missing the obvious.
I realize that you're in a rush to slur Obama, but with this step you've moved to attacking his supporters!

People who say Obama would not be here if he was not black are just plain NOT THINKING. Possibly "clueless" would be a better word.
Look at where Obama "came from", and compare that to where he was before the Presidential election.
He has ALREADY made some pretty impressive advancements in his life, yet some want to denigrate and ignore ALL that by simply claiming it's "just cause he's black".

Some people are pushing to denigrate and belittle Obama in some pretty extreme and absurd ways.

It's funny how this is offered as support for the claim that Obama would not be there if he weren't black...
Jesse Jackson WAS black, and he obviously didn't make it.
Obama obviously has MORE going for him than just "being black". I don't know where Ferraro's "loyalties" lie, but I wouldn't be surprised if she were one of those disenfranchised Hillary supporters who cry-cry-cry up a river and want to poison the well just cause they didn't win.

Scratch that. I just googled it. Ferraro was HEAVILY entrenched in with Hillary, and it's probable that she IS suffering from an extreme case of sour grapes.
The funny thing is that if these sour grapes were directed at the Republicans, Bhkad would quickly condemn them.
But because she says something that he likes, albeit for a different motivation, he quotes her and pretends she's automatically credible....

By the way, I wouldn't doubt this same kind of psychological/political jiujitsu (the Obama "bargain") has been discussed by Islamic leaders as a way of taking advantage of feelings of White/non-Muslim guilt when Muslims run for office.

Mikeyy · #32 (**permalink**) 08-28-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

By the way, I wouldn't doubt this same kind of psychological/political jiujitsu (the Obama "bargain") has been discussed by Islamic leaders as a way of taking advantage of feelings of White/non-Muslim guilt when Muslims run for office.

Try to stay low to the floor and go open a door or window. I think the fumes are getting to you. Is anyone in the world really trying to make a Obama islamist connection besides some right wing bloggers?

cnredd · #33 (**permalink**) 08-28-2008, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

Try to stay low to the floor and go open a door or window. I think the fumes are getting to you. Is anyone in the world really trying to make a Obama islamist connection besides some right wing bloggers?

Yes...

Democrats...

Tennessee Dem Suggests Obama May Be ‘Terrorist Connected’

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Proving just how important Barack Obama’s new rumor-busting Web site could be, a Tennessee Democratic Party member told a local newspaper that the presumptive nominee of his party “may be terrorist connected.”

The Nashville City Paper quoted Fred Hobbs, identified as an executive committee member of the state Democratic Party, in an article Friday examining why Rep. Lincoln Davis, D-Tenn., was withholding his endorsement of Obama.

Hobbs told the City Paper he understands why Davis is slow to endorse, because Hobbs said he, too, is “skeptical” of Obama.

“Maybe (it’s) the same reason I don’t want to — I don’t exactly approve of a lot of the things he stands for and I’m not sure we know enough about him,” Hobbs told the paper. “He’s got some bad connections, and he may be terrorist connected for all I can tell. It sounds kind of like he may be.”

foundit66 · #34 (**permalink**) 08-28-2008, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

By the way, I wouldn't doubt this same kind of psychological/political jiujitsu (the Obama "bargain") has been discussed by Islamic leaders as a way of taking advantage of feelings of White/non-Muslim guilt when Muslims run for office.

You truly are Michael Moore's conservative counter-part...

If you think you can muster up some proof for these conspiracy theories, beyond jaded Hillary supporters who would gnaw off their own leg if they thought it would spite Obama, let me know...

bhkad · #35 (**permalink**) 08-28-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Spencer Collins

and an even better VP candidate...

A 'pimped' Yugo is still a Yugo.

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Tagged: Unreliable
Yugo
Life span: 1986-1990

Chinese car companies are now talking about entering the U.S. market, so you'll see the Yugo cited frequently as an example of how not to do it. Lesson number one: There is a definite limit to what Americans will accept in exchange for a low price.

Introduced to U.S. buyers in 1985 at a price of $3,990 the Yugoslavian-built Yugo sounded like a bargain. It was, by far, the cheapest new car you could get. But the Yugo's reputation for awful build quality - which some dogged defenders still insist was undeserved - quickly became the stuff of legend. Yugo jokes were almost as numerous as lawyer jokes and just as scathing. (No, the rear window wasn't really heated to keep your hands warm while pushing it, but you actually may be able to double the car's current value by filling it with gas.)

Consumer Reports, in its review of the Yugo, called the car "hard to recommend at any price" and concluded that "you'd be better off buying a good used car than a new Yugo."

The Yugo stands out as the only car from a non-U.S. manufacturer to make the Hagerty Insurance "Most Questionable Cars" list.

"I threatened a couple of times to buy one and leave it in somebody's driveway," said McKeel Hagerty, president of Hagerty Insurance.

foundit66 · #36 (**permalink**) 08-28-2008, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Yes...
Democrats...

Tennessee Dem Suggests Obama May Be ‘Terrorist Connected’

Brought to us by ...
FOX NEWS!

I guess the fact that they take their Obama bashing from both the left and the right proves they are "Fair and Balanced"...

Dan Rather should have phrased his "comments" like your news article does.
Then he'd still be in business, eh?

bhkad · #37 (**permalink**) 08-28-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

You truly are Michael Moore's conservative counter-part...

If you think you can muster up some proof for these conspiracy theories, beyond jaded Hillary supporters who would gnaw off their own leg if they thought it would spite Obama, let me know...

The dynamics are almost identical. They'd be foolish not to consider it. Most of the American public, generally, thinks of Muslims as they do American Blacks and afford them the same kind of generous benevolence despite the fundamental differences between the two groups.

While the American people remain clueless and confused about the nature and goals of Islam the Islamic leaders should strike while the iron is hot and run some candidates using this same kind of "bargain."

bhkad · #38 (**permalink**) 08-28-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

Brought to us by ...
FOX NEWS!

I guess the fact that they take their Obama bashing from both the left and the right proves they are "Fair and Balanced"...

Dan Rather should have phrased his "comments" like your news article does.
Then he'd still be in business, eh?

Maybe you are unaware of the other Fox News slogan:

We report, you decide.

foundit66 · #39 (**permalink**) 08-28-2008, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

The dynamics are almost identical. They'd be foolish not to consider it. Most of the American public, generally, thinks of Muslims as they do American Blacks and afford them the same kind of generous benevolence despite the fundamental differences between the two groups.

At times, I can't help but wonder if people like you live in a different reality than I do.

"Most of the American public, generally, thinks of Muslims as they do American Blacks and afford them the same kind of generous benevolence despite the fundamental differences between the two groups"???? HOW do you come by that assessment?

Take the flying imams for example. They tried to play "the muslim card", but they got rejected.

We've got about 1% of the population as Muslim, but only fairly recently did we see THE FIRST Muslim in Congress.

I think you make up your fantasy-life as you go along, and reality be damned.

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Maybe you are unaware of the other Fox News slogan:
We report, you decide.

When they abandon the first slogan, then you can criticize.
Until then, they're second slogan is just a sad ironic comment in my interpretation...

bhkad · #40 (**permalink**) 08-28-2008, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

Try to stay low to the floor and go open a door or window. I think the fumes are getting to you. Is anyone in the world really trying to make a Obama islamist connection besides some right wing bloggers?

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Whitewashing Hatem El-Hady from the Obama campaign website
By Michelle Malkin • April 25, 2008 12:00 PM

Shady Islamic fund-raiser Hatem El-Hady dedicated himself to raising cash for the Democrat Party and supporting Barack Obama.

Patrick Poole at Front Page Magazine reported on El-Hady’s efforts earlier this week.
FrontPage Magazine

The Mad King noted the disappearance of Michelle Obama from El-Hady’s “friends” list.
Terror Fundraiser no 'Friend' of Michelle Obama, DJ Credited with Hot News Tip - DigitalJournal.com: The Power of Citizen Journalism

LGF has more on the whitewashing of El-Hady’s presence from the Obama campaign website.
Little Green Footballs - Terrorist Fundraisers for Obama

First, in bits. Then, in whole.

Change you can believe in.

Michelle Malkin Whitewashing Hatem El-Hady from the Obama campaign website

This may be something but it may be nothing.

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