Delegate says Jones called her 'Uncle Tom'

cnredd · #1 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 05:46 PM

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DENVER -- A black Hillary Clinton delegate on Sunday accused state Senate President Emil Jones of calling her an "Uncle Tom."

Jones -- Barack Obama's political mentor -- denied using the racially loaded slur against Chicago political consultant Delmarie Cobb, but two aldermen who said they witnessed the Saturday night exchange back up Cobb's account.

"Last night, I was called an 'Uncle Tom' by Emil Jones in the lobby of the hotel, right in front of [Ald.] Freddrenna Lyle and [Ald.] Leslie Hairston and [Ald.] Latasha Thomas," said Cobb, a member of Clinton's Illinois Steering Committee. "I walked over to him and asked him, 'What did you just call me?' "

Don't you just love Democrat on Democrat hate crimes?...

Mikeyy · #2 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 06:00 PM

I just wached some wacko gals outside the convention. They claim they are Hillary supporters that are now for McCain because Obama was in a Muslim school when he was a child. God what crazy friggin country we are at times. What a bunch of fruits. And you can bet the press will find them. DINO's

bhkad · #3 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

I just wached some wacko gals outside the convention. They claim they are Hillary supporters that are now for McCain because Obama was in a Muslim school when he was a child. God what crazy friggin country we are at times. What a bunch of fruits. And you can bet the press will find them. DINO's

Nope. The ones you cited are Patriotic Americans. But the ones that will drive a friggin wedge through the Democratic Party with their insanely vicious in-fighting have been the driving force in the Democratic Party for almost two decades now. The same ones who have consistently jeopardized our safety and our actions in the military, diplomatic, intelligence, homeland security and P.R. arenas are now applying their unique talents to a more finely targeted enemy. Their instincts for self destruction are turned on themselves now just as they've been turned on America as a whole throughout the war on terror.

Now themselves REALLY MEANS THEMSELVES.

And I say, 'go get em!'

Maybe now you all will understand how harmful and frustrating these wackos have been these past 8 years.

bhkad · #4 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Delegate says Jones called her 'Uncle Tom'

Don't you just love Democrat on Democrat hate crimes?...

Emil Jones (one of Obama's mentor's and a major player from the 'Chicago/Cook County political machine') must be a "challenger" type of person. And from my experience and from what I have read from Shelby Steele, it seems overwhelmingly more likely that a Black person from the "challenger" category would call a "bargainer" type of Black, a 'Tom.'

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Because he is black, there is a sense that profound questions stand to be resolved in the unfolding of his political destiny. And, as the Clintons have discovered, it is hard in the real world to run against a candidate of destiny. For many Americans -- black and white -- Barack Obama is simply too good (and too rare) an opportunity to pass up. For whites, here is the opportunity to document their deliverance from the shames of their forbearers. And for blacks, here is the chance to document the end of inferiority. So the Clintons have found themselves running more against America's very highest possibilities than against a man. And the press, normally happy to dispel every political pretension, has all but quivered before Mr. Obama. They, too, have feared being on the wrong side of destiny.

And yet, in the end, Barack Obama's candidacy is not qualitatively different from Al Sharpton's or Jesse Jackson's. Like these more irascible of his forbearers, Mr. Obama's run at the presidency is based more on the manipulation of white guilt than on substance. Messrs. Sharpton and Jackson were "challengers," not bargainers. They intimidated whites and demanded, in the name of historical justice, that they be brought forward. Mr. Obama flatters whites, grants them racial innocence, and hopes to ascend on the back of their gratitude. Two sides of the same coin.

But bargainers have an Achilles heel. They succeed as conduits of white innocence only as long as they are largely invisible as complex human beings. They hope to become icons that can be identified with rather than seen, and their individual complexity gets in the way of this. So bargainers are always laboring to stay invisible. (We don't know the real politics or convictions of Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan or Oprah Winfrey, bargainers all.) Mr. Obama has said of himself, "I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views . . ." And so, human visibility is Mr. Obama's Achilles heel. If we see the real man, his contradictions and bents of character, he will be ruined as an icon, as a "blank screen."

The Obama Bargain - WSJ.com

Mikeyy · #5 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 07:28 PM

The other thing I notice a bunch of. People that say they will vote for McCain because he will keep us safe. These are the same people who could care less about their fundamental rights. As long as someone keeps them safe they could care less. But they have no idea how he will do it. And they have no idea what Obama would do to keep them safe. No evidence at all for their belief. Its like a religious thing. You can't explain it. Bu they just believe.

faithful_servant · #6 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 08:04 PM

Lets get back to the subject here. How do you Obama supporters feel about another close associate of Sen. Obama showing a racist, radicalized attitude??

Mikeyy · #7 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by faithful_servant

Lets get back to the subject here. How do you Obama supporters feel about another close associate of Sen. Obama showing a racist, radicalized attitude??

If you have no proof that Obama is a racist then you are doing the McCarthyism thing again. You are associated with blank. So you are blank. What was it that senator said to McCarthy finally. After McCarthy destroyed peoples entire lives by making accusation passed on to him by others. At long last sir....blah blah blah

bhkad · #8 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

The other thing I notice a bunch of. People that say they will vote for McCain because he will keep us safe. These are the same people who could care less about their fundamental rights. As long as someone keeps them safe they could care less. But they have no idea how he will do it. And they have no idea what Obama would do to keep them safe. No evidence at all for their belief. Its like a religious thing. You can't explain it. Bu they just believe.

So, why doesn't Obama come clean and tell us the specifics of his plans?

Because he dares not.

If he does he knows he will lose.

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. Messrs. Sharpton and Jackson were "challengers," not bargainers. They intimidated whites and demanded, in the name of historical justice, that they be brought forward. Mr. Obama flatters whites, grants them racial innocence, and hopes to ascend on the back of their gratitude. Two sides of the same coin.

But bargainers have an Achilles heel. They succeed as conduits of white innocence only as long as they are largely invisible as complex human beings. They hope to become icons that can be identified with rather than seen, and their individual complexity gets in the way of this. So bargainers are always laboring to stay invisible. (We don't know the real politics or convictions of Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan or Oprah Winfrey, bargainers all.) Mr. Obama has said of himself, "I serve as a blank screen on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views . . ." And so, human visibility is Mr. Obama's Achilles heel. If we see the real man, his contradictions and bents of character, he will be ruined as an icon, as a "blank screen."

Thus, nothing could be more dangerous to Mr. Obama's political aspirations than the revelation that he, the son of a white woman, sat Sunday after Sunday -- for 20 years -- in an Afrocentric, black nationalist church in which his own mother, not to mention other whites, could never feel comfortable. His pastor, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, is a challenger who goes far past Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson in his anti-American outrage ("God damn America").

How does one "transcend" race in this church? The fact is that Barack Obama has fellow-traveled with a hate-filled, anti-American black nationalism all his adult life, failing to stand and challenge an ideology that would have no place for his own mother. And what portent of presidential judgment is it to have exposed his two daughters for their entire lives to what is, at the very least, a subtext of anti-white vitriol?

What could he have been thinking? Of course he wasn't thinking. He was driven by insecurity, by a need to "be black" despite his biracial background. And so fellow-traveling with a little race hatred seemed a small price to pay for a more secure racial identity. And anyway, wasn't this hatred more rhetorical than real?

But now the floodlight of a presidential campaign has trained on this usually hidden corner of contemporary black life: a mindless indulgence in a rhetorical anti-Americanism as a way of bonding and of asserting one's blackness. Yet Jeremiah Wright, splashed across America's television screens, has shown us that there is no real difference between rhetorical hatred and real hatred.

No matter his ultimate political fate, there is already enough pathos in Barack Obama to make him a cautionary tale. His public persona thrives on a manipulation of whites (bargaining), and his private sense of racial identity demands both self-betrayal and duplicity. His is the story of a man who flew so high, yet neglected to become himself.

The Obama Bargain - WSJ.com

"If we see the real man, his contradictions and bents of character, he will be ruined as an icon, as a "blank screen."

bhkad · #9 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikeyy

If you have no proof that Obama is a racist then you are doing the McCarthyism thing again. You are associated with blank. So you are blank. What was it that senator said to McCarthy finally. After McCarthy destroyed peoples entire lives by making accusation passed on to him by others. At long last sir....blah blah blah

Barack Obama has spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America.

Mikeyy · #10 (**permalink**) 08-25-2008, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

So, why doesn't Obama come clean and tell us the specifics of his plans?

Because he dares not.

If he does he knows he will lose.

The Obama Bargain - WSJ.com

"If we see the real man, his contradictions and bents of character, he will be ruined as an icon, as a "blank screen."

The Jeremiah Wright story is so old it stinks. I hope you are keeping it refrigerated. Otherwise it will continue to make the user stink as well. Nobody cares about Wright but the right. So you are only exciting the right wing. You are converting no one.

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