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Old 08-21-2008, 07:53 PM
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McCain's Sucker Punch: "Housing Problem"

When the Obama campaign jumped on McCain's answer to how many houses he owned and he found it hard to remember, they must have thought they'd caught him in a senior moment.

It was actually an ambush.

This is a great ad! It's a SUCKER PUNCH!



And a great counter-punch whether or not it was actually orchestrated.
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so, the fact that Obama lives in a 1M home (not a mansion, by the way ), and somebody he knows was indicted - it's a slam against Obama?

I think most people see it for what it is - a desperate attempt to turn the issue to Obama instead of the drooling old man's inability to count his own homes.

Nobody thinks that Obama is a crook - not even the ones who put together that ad - they just tried to distort the truth for political bashing.

You don't have to like Obama - but he's not a crook.

edited to add: oh! and McCain trying to make fun of Obama for taking a week long vacation?! How many people watching tv haven't taken a week long vacation?! LOL pathetic.
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so, the fact that Obama lives in a 1M home (not a mansion, by the way ), and somebody he knows was indicted - it's a slam against Obama?
I swear.
It's almost comedy at times, if you take a moment to not take it seriously...


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edited to add: oh! and McCain trying to make fun of Obama for taking a week long vacation?! How many people watching tv haven't taken a week long vacation?! LOL pathetic.
McCain shouldn't even bring up any criticism over "vacation" considering the ring he continually kisses belongs to a record-setter in the "vacation" category...

He added that, on top of holding the record for most foreign countries visited by a US president, Bush also racked up a record for most vacation days: 506, and counting.

"I think it's pretty clear: there's something about being at the White House our president cannot stand," said Stewart. Then, shifting into his familiar 'Bush voice,' he joked, "I can't help but think it -- I'm sleeping in the same bed where my mom and dad used to do it."
The Raw Story | Daily Show: Globetrotting, vacation records show Bush 'cannot stand' White House

And when Russia invaded Georgia, what was Bush doing???
At the Olympics. Which in and of itself, is one thing.
But waiting until the 11th to leave?
(Georgia started military action on 7th.
Russia? 8th.)

And then he comes back, but what's next???
Georgia Crisis Makes Bush Postpone Vacation; For One Day


On second thought, maybe I'll just be grateful that he's spending more time OUT of the White House...


Somebody should force McCain to comment on Bush's "vacation" record....
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so, the fact that Obama lives in a 1M home (not a mansion, by the way ), and somebody he knows was indicted - it's a slam against Obama?

I think most people see it for what it is - a desperate attempt to turn the issue to Obama instead of the drooling old man's inability to count his own homes.

Nobody thinks that Obama is a crook - not even the ones who put together that ad - they just tried to distort the truth for political bashing.

You don't have to like Obama - but he's not a crook.

edited to add: oh! and McCain trying to make fun of Obama for taking a week long vacation?! How many people watching tv haven't taken a week long vacation?! LOL pathetic.
There are so many questionable associations that you can make excuses for one. Then you'd have to turn right around and invent an excuse for another. And then another and another and another. But when would you yourself realize, "Hey, this guy has a LOT of shady or questionable associations in his past!"

When our troops battled the last of Saddam's men those loyalists were referred to as 'dead enders.'

Are you one of Obama's dead enders?

Are you one of Obama's "paid bloggers?"

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Radical and Socialist Influences:

Saul Alinsky
Bill Ayers
Carl Davidson
Frank Marshall Davis
Democratic Socialists of America
Bernardine Dohrn
Gamaliel Foundation
New Party
Socialist Scholars Conference


Political Allies and Advisors:

Ali Abunimah
Mohamed Salim Al-Churbaji
David Axelrod
Gregg Craig
Jim Johnson
Marilyn Katz
Anthony Lake
Robert Malley
Alice Palmer
Eli Pariser
George Soros
Cass Sunstein
Dorothy Tillman
Joyce Wheeler
Tim Wheeler


Religious Affiliations:

Louis Farrakan
Rev. Joseph Lowery
James Meeks
Rev. Otis Moss
Rev. Michael Pfleger
Rev. Al Sharpton
Jim Wallis
Rev. Jeremiah Wright


Organizational Affiliations:

ACORN
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Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, P.C.
International Crisis Group
MoveOn
National Council of La Raza
Planned Parenthood Federation of America
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Academic Affiliations:

Rashid Khalidi
Edward Said
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Foundations:

Joyce Foundation
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Money Scandals:

Nadhmi Auchi
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Family:

Michelle Obama
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August 4, 2008
Exclusive: Obama: The Company He Kept

Rita Kramer

Ever since the rantings of Sen. McCarthy it has been a cardinal sin to suggest what has come to be called “guilt by association.” But if we drop the word “guilt” it should be a matter of common sense that who an individual chooses to associate with gives some indication of his interests, tastes and values.

So it might not be amiss to take a look at some of the chosen associates in the life of a man who is a contender for the position of President of the United States and Commander in Chief of its Armed Forces.

We all know by now the story of the Black Liberation theologian Reverend Wright and the anti-white and anti-American ravings that Obama, with his wife and two small children, sat through without demurral until it became politic to distance himself from his former spiritual leader.

There are at least two other figures in Obama’s past whose lives make interesting reading and raise questions about Obama’s social and political views. The first of these had been dead for over a decade when the young Obama entered the sphere of his influence, but that influence was still very much alive.

Saul Alinsky has been called the father of grass roots community organizing. In the 1940s he set out to investigate the gangs of the Chicago slums. He concluded that the causes of criminal behavior were poverty and a sense of powerlessness. He made common cause with local union and religious leaders and set about organizing neighborhood residents, like many a demagogue before and after him, by convincing them they had a common enemy - political, business and institutional entities - and arming them with the means to confront them. As always, there was some justice in Alinsky’s cause. Corruption was rife in Chicago machine politics at the time and jobs were hard to come by for the poor and uneducated. And as always, what began as a laudable venture morphed gradually into its own form of unintended consequences.

Just as “affirmative action,” a euphemism for racial preferences, segued into racial quotas, and just as desegregation became legislated integration with forced busing and concomitant white flight, marooning the disadvantaged in the inner city slums, so Alinsky’s technique of demonstrating for legitimate needs became demands for special privileges. The distance between the community organizer and the rabble-rouser lessened. Demands concerning housing and hiring were shouted in the streets and it was there that policy issues were decided.

I was a student at the University of Chicago when Alinsky defined the University as the enemy and its efforts to expand across the Midway into the Woodlawn neighborhood became the battleground. Demonstrators threatening to lie down in front of bulldozers defeated the University and created a sense of menace around the campus it would have taken Draconian measures to deal with in any way other than to accede to the protestors’ demands. A crowd can easily be turned into a mob.

Alinsky’s philosophy and his methods were at their height in the sixties. Among the many young people drawn to them was the young Hillary Clinton, whose senior thesis at Wellesley dealt with the community activism pioneered by Alinsky.

He himself was proudest of his contribution to what he considered “social justice.” It could be described as agitating for redistributive egalitarianism. In his two books, Reveille for Radicals (1946) and Rules for Radicals (1969), he described his program for training organizers like the young Obama to “rub raw the sores of discontent.”

Barack Obama was just 24 and, according to his own account, searching to define himself as a black man, when he took a job with the Developing Communities Project, built on the Alinsky model on Chicago’s South Side. As he makes clear in his memoir, being black meant identifying with the oppressed. As an organizer for the DCP, Obama’s job was to engage the project’s constituency following the rules set forth by Alinsky as a guide. Make them aware of their misery, lead them to blame government and corporations for everything wanting in their lives, and bring them together in a group to demand redress by whatever means will make it a matter of self-preservation for government and business to meet their demands.

Obama has been quoted as saying that his four years as a community organizer were the best education he ever got anywhere. That is admittedly an ambiguous statement, leaving it unclear just what it was that Obama felt he had learned in those years. Was it the usefulness of radical agitation for social/economic goals or its limitations? Did he move on to more mainstream attitudes and actions only, as with his former spiritual guru, when it became politically prudent to do so? And how would we know?

If Obama still believes in the values and methods of the world of Saul Alinsky, he would hardly seem to be the man most Americans would choose to lead the country. If he does not, it would behoove him to explain his transformation, not just announce it, lest he appear to be an unprincipled opportunist who moves as the wind blows.
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