Well, I always thought Oregon politics was pretty smashed anyway, but this takes the cake. Talk about an a$$ ki$$er. (Notice the dollar signs).


A lot of politicians jumped ship during the Regan years, but that was after he was in office for awhile. I still thought it was rude at the time, though.
I just don't see how a guy can change his entire belief system in a couple of short years!

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I can't speak for this specific case, but I believe recent polls show even a majority of Republicans disapprove of Bush...

And then there is the whole "McCain = Bush part 3" issue...

Sometimes, party loyalty has to be earned more than expected.
And with McCain, what has he ACTUALLY done to earn such loyalty?


On another hand, there are "democrats" who are "for Hillary" who are supporting McCain as well.

True enough, but the Oregon Democrats are way way way liberal. They are a copy cat California. In fact I think a few of the recent governors are transplants from either Washington or Cali. Tree sitters, people who want dolphins recognized as citizens, this is the kind of liberal I'm talking about.
So I don't see how a Republican can just decide to jump that far!
It would be like Al Sharpton campaigning to abolish welfare. Too crazy.

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Ugh.
Not "Berkeley" liberal.
I'm not fond of that crowd...


Sometimes the "conservative" / "liberal" spectrum shifts due to the area in question.
"California" Democrat is not the same as "Nebraska" Democrat.

I would be curious where Joel's party associations would lie in a more conservative state/area.
Just a theory...

Same here. I know a candidate has to bend a little depending on the circumstances. A Democrat who wants to get elected in Idaho is going to have to tone down some of the national party rhetoric if not outright denounce it! And visa versa with liberal states.
One smart thing Georg Bush Sr. did was to go Republican in Texas. The GOP had plenty of room and the Democrats at the time were old party standards not apt to give way to challengers. Some people just want a change no matter what! Well they certainly got it. I always thought he could have gone with either side. he just had a better chance with the Republicans.

This Huegan whatever has to be having an epiphany (of which I truly think politicians are immune-no matter how much good fiction is written otherwise), or he is paid off. (70% of Republican votes down the toilet?) I can say that as a private citizen. I THINK HE'S ON THE TAKE!!!! And I don't care who hears it.

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Is it me or did everyone miss the fact that the republican candidate ,if voted into office, will be the oldest president in their history. The last president to make that mark was in fact Ronald Reagan. sadly Mr. Reagan died from a long battle with Alzheimer's disease. However this was not until he had already been hired to play the ultimate role as the President of the United States of America. A role in which the cast call was four years long, allowing him to take heat for the decisions that he was most famous for. The greatest of them being the most outrageous attempt to rejuvenate an already bustling economy by endorsing some Macro-economic idea called "The Trickle Down Theory". This single decision has been given credit for the increased division between the have and the have not in mainstream society. This was followed by G.B. #1 who had already been very adept at running the American Govt. for the man who was hired to "play" President. So actually' if or when The republican senator is indeed elected it is my opinion that worried people not use the slogan G.B. #3 but rather G.B.#3and 1/2. Given the fact that with the exception of one democratic president(who was very good at economics...read the stats on the status of the U.S. economy at the end of his term, WE WERE IN THE BLACK FINANCIALLY AS A NATION BY BILLIONS!) WE as American citizens have "endured" the reign and calamity of a republican president since 1980. Now we are as a nation financially bankrupt but afraid to file, U.S. morale and morals are at an all time low, and still we try to talk ourselves into believing that the best thing for the country is to elect another "puppet" for the "pulpit" That thought is the complete definition of insanity. INSANITY: Doing the same stupid shit over and over and expecting different results(abridged from the "Big Book of A.A." 1939) Furthermore, if we as people cannot learn any better than this by taking a look back at our own history, we are soon to elevate to a new level of domestic slavery as a new breed of CATTLE FOR THE RICH it can get better or worse in this great nation of ours and to make the outcome be a reflection of our efforts and needs as a nation we should first find out who is BOTH parties successor so we can decide for sure if we want to continue the insanity(please refer to definition of insanity above) truly concerned, fishn4life.

Had Heugan ran in any other part of the country, he'd be considered a liberal, but here in Oregon (especially on the west side of the Cascades), he's a conservative. Look at Gordon Smith, the guy's the poster child for RINOism and he's the most conservative we've had in years, IMO.

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God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

WOW!! You need help. Are you aware that you're a bigot? You put down two intelligent and successful people for being old. That's what we in the real world call "bigotry". Yes, I'm aware that it's a new word for you, but I'm pretty you can use a dictionary to look it up and learn what it means.

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

Bigot: Noun translated from Spanish language to English means"man with a mustache, hence a man of spirit"one who holds blindly and intolerantly to a particular creed, opinion, etc... from Websters new world dictionary (copyright 1953)
Thank you for your mistake. It gives me something to do. Your claim of my bigotry due to the declaration of the fact about the age of one president and one prospective president, has nothing to do with the topic of the article. It seems you may have dissected and interpreted to fit your opinion of my nature, and justify an unwarranted argument to lure me into debate about a statement of fact. Age was my lure for well...I guess... you. Fact: President Reagan did die after a long battle with Alzheimer's. He also did in fact greatly endorse the "trickle down theory of economics" Economics(the main body topic of the article) Fact: if elected senator McCain will be the oldest republican president EVER(associated press). This has nothing to do with the statement of purpose. The statement of purpose was to spur thought as to whom would be either parties successor, given for any reason, the president could not serve his or her(this will be politically correct in the future)term in office. When considering anyone, for any state or federal position, every aspect and possible outcome should be analyzed. Background; criminal activity(like infidelity, which is illegal and immoral in most U.S. states); affiliation with sects, creeds, and organizations that may impact any decision they will make. Along with these concerns, we should also consider the impact their successor would have, and submit them to the same scrutiny when considering them for second chair as our nations highest official. This drives me, as well as 7/8 of honest people, to wonder if heart disease; pancreatic cancer; prostate cancer; or even outrunning an on coming
car, would be the deciding factor for who holds the office of the president tomorrow morning, after the news bulletin reveals we have a new leader. What I said was, "We" should consider who "BOTH" parties are going to choose as a running mate because he or she may for any unknown reason, be the boss at a moments notice. As fast as a bullet can fly, (that has happened three times that i have read of in our nations history)our nation has in a moment, had a new commander and chief. Death is a process that begins at conception and only God knows ones time frame. For those who have lived a natural course of life equal to the A.M.A's projection of their ideal life expectancy.........this is something more to consider. Leaving the policies of the "pending" chief in full view.... JUST IN CASE A FREAK LIGHTENING BOLT APPEARS ON A SUNNY DAY!!!

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