Obama’s own voice may haunt him - Page 2

faithful_servant · #11 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

I thought that warranted saying again.
These days, I just chuckle whenever I see somebody call Obama a racist.
I laugh whenever people try to paint him as a racial divider.
Obama's speech on race was incredible. And the closest I've seen anybody try to approach it so far is to read into ONE part of it, proclaiming all sorts of junk which is never even really hinted at.

So one speech negates a long (and growing) trail of associations that Sen. Obama has had that are clearly either racist or criminal/radical??

aaronssongs · #12 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by faithful_servant

So one speech negates a long (and growing) trail of associations that Sen. Obama has had that are clearly either racist or criminal/radical??

yep

faithful_servant · #13 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by faithful_servant

So one speech negates a long (and growing) trail of associations that Sen. Obama has had that are clearly either racist or criminal/radical??

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Originally Posted by aaronssongs

yep

..and therein lies one of the biggest problem of the left. Failure to maintain a decent level of self-honesty. You would vote for a man based on a speech and knowingly ignore a long trail behind him that should be throwing up red flags left and right.

foundit66 · #14 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by faithful_servant

So one speech negates a long (and growing) trail of associations that Sen. Obama has had that are clearly either racist or criminal/radical??

"associations"???

Let's talk about "associations" with Republicans and pedophiles, shall we?

Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.
Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.
Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S. attorney" appointed by President Bush's attorney general.
Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

Republican values create child molesters

Just cause you have a person you know doesn't mean you ascribe to their beliefs.
The fact that you have to resort to claiming "associations" dictate Obama's positions, instead of HIS ACTUAL WORDS demonstrates a lot about the weakness of your claim.

aaronssongs · #15 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by faithful_servant

..and therein lies one of the biggest problem of the left. Failure to maintain a decent level of self-honesty. You would vote for a man based on a speech and knowingly ignore a long trail behind him that should be throwing up red flags left and right.

Excuse me, but the right wing and Republicans have absolutely no room to talk about decency, given the present administration, which , by far, exceeds any excess made in any previous administrations, hands down.
The man, Obama, has placed his associations, missteps, and doubters, in context, and "moved on"....hello? Millions of people, including a whole bunch of white folks, are supporting him. Do you have a beef with them? If so, I'd love to hear it....even some Republicans are saying great things about Obama...I guess they're crazy, too.
Put it to rest.....that dog don't hunt, so to speak.

Idealogically Promiscuous · #16 (**permalink**) 07-07-2008, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

"associations"???

Let's talk about "associations" with Republicans and pedophiles, shall we?

Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.
Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.
Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S. attorney" appointed by President Bush's attorney general.
Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

Republican values create child molesters

Just cause you have a person you know doesn't mean you ascribe to their beliefs.
The fact that you have to resort to claiming "associations" dictate Obama's positions, instead of HIS ACTUAL WORDS demonstrates a lot about the weakness of your claim.

Except that the difference is, the republicans have a proven record of stripping these people of their status and ousting them from the party unlike democrats who are prone to give underage male prostitution organizers a standing ovation on the congress floor. Nice try, but you prove nothing except that there are pedophiles in society that have to be watched out for everywhere.

cnredd · #17 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

"associations"???

Let's talk about "associations" with Republicans and pedophiles, shall we?

Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.
Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.
Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S. attorney" appointed by President Bush's attorney general.
Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

Republican values create child molesters

Just cause you have a person you know doesn't mean you ascribe to their beliefs.
The fact that you have to resort to claiming "associations" dictate Obama's positions, instead of HIS ACTUAL WORDS demonstrates a lot about the weakness of your claim.

As I've been saying for years...possibly decades...

There are two ways to win an election...

1) Show yourself to be better then your competition...

2) Show the competition as being so bad that your stupidness will look like rosy flowers...

The Democrats have consistantly shown they have no concept of #1...

aaronssongs · #18 (**permalink**) 07-08-2008, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

As I've been saying for years...possibly decades...

There are two ways to win an election...

1) Show yourself to be better then your competition...

2) Show the competition as being so bad that your stupidness will look like rosy flowers...

The Democrats have consistantly shown they have no concept of #1...

Ah, but we Democrats have consistently ( not "consistantly"...no such word. Get a dictionary) have shown concept #2, in "Spades".

faithful_servant · #19 (**permalink**) 07-09-2008, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by foundit66

"associations"???

Let's talk about "associations" with Republicans and pedophiles, shall we?

Republican presidential campaign official Matthew Joseph Elliott was convicted of sexual exploitation of a child.
Republican Party Chairman Donald Fleischman was charged with two counts of child enticement, two counts of contributing to the delinquency of a child and a single charge of exposing himself to a child.
Republican prosecutor John David Roy Atchison was arrested for soliciting sex from a 5-year old girl, then killed himself three weeks later. At the time of his arrest, Atchison was an "assistant U.S. attorney" appointed by President Bush's attorney general.
Republican city councilman John Bryan killed himself after police began investigating allegations that he had molested three girls, including two of his adopted daughters, ages 12 and 15.
Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.
Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.
Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.
Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.
Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.
Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.
Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.
Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.
Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.
Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.
Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.
Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.
Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

Republican values create child molesters

Just cause you have a person you know doesn't mean you ascribe to their beliefs.
The fact that you have to resort to claiming "associations" dictate Obama's positions, instead of HIS ACTUAL WORDS demonstrates a lot about the weakness of your claim.

...and these people are directly connected to Sen. McCain??

But Sen. McCain isn't the point of this post. It's strictly a "distract from any discussion that isn't a glowing endorsement of Sen. Obama" post, combined with an anti-Republican rant. Sad and pathetic.

Idealogically Promiscuous · #20 (**permalink**) 07-09-2008, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by faithful_servant

...and these people are directly connected to Sen. McCain??

But Sen. McCain isn't the point of this post. It's strictly a "distract from any discussion that isn't a glowing endorsement of Sen. Obama" post, combined with an anti-Republican rant. Sad and pathetic.

I just don't get the Obama effect. He didn't even have a clear message in the beginning, no proven record of performance, and no credentials.

Basically, all they heard out of him was...

"Let's have some change, yes laaaawd, change. We need some change up in here, can I get a witness. Lawd, change is what we need...oh change boom-shaka-laka-laka, lawd yes, change."

AND THEY FELL FOR IT!!!!!

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