You completely missed the point I was making. I'm not talking Republican or Dem. crooks, I'm talking about the ever-growing crowd of crooks SURROUNDING them. There are a multitude of crooks drawn to both sides, but the Dems. just seem to keep attracting more and more of them. From protests turned violent to eco-nut attacks to campaign finance scandals beyond counting to casual associations with known criminals to the Chicago political machine. The left just seems to draw the criminal element in like nobody's business.

IMO, it has a lot to with a lack of respect for rule of law. When relative morality becomes the order of the day, rule of law is thrown out. Liberals tend to be strongly attracted to relative morality and so are criminals. They both use it to explain away illegal/unethical/immoral acts. Conservative tend more towards a rule of law mindset. They approach things from a legalistic, black and white mindset that criminals tend to avoid.

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God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

I'm quoting your last two posts back-to-back so the viewing audience can see exactly how false your claim of "not talking Republican or Dem. crooks" truly is.

You just went from "the number of criminals that seem drawn to the the left just seem to keep piling up" to "not talking Republican or Dem. crooks"???

Don't insult my intelligence.


If you want to play that game...

I think I just proved, using your "standards", that the right draws a LOT more pedophiles.
It's rather disgusting, IMO...


I'm sorry, but no.
"relative morality" is NOT the same thing as lawlessness, or ignoring the laws this country adopts. The fact that you want to put the same in the same group demonstrates you truly don't understand the difference inbetween RESPECTING other people's individual morality, and an absence of morality.

And "conservatives" do not tend towards a more "rule of law" mindset.
They tend more to pedophiles...
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Thank you for making my point for me, Mikeyy. All of the examples I gave were those of people who were not Dem. politician, but rather people around them. But, missing that point entirely just shows that you're either in complete denial of the problem or are willing to knowingly ignore it. So how about instead of trying to shift the discussion away from a growing problem among your own party, try to address the problem??? Why isn't the left (the world champions of pointing out problems) willing to point out and deal with thier own problems? I'll freely admit that we on the right have a tendency to ignore problems until we HAVE to do something about them, but the left doesn't have this shortcoming. They are intensely aware of problems, other than their own. Where is the cry from the left for integrity within their own party?? Why isn't the left demanding an explanation for maintaining of criminal connections among thier leadership?

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Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

You keep ignoring everybody else's point to fixate on your own "point".
We can CHERRY-PICK cases all day.
You naming ONLY cases involving "liberals".
Others naming ONLY cases involving "conservatives".

The more honest and objective approach would be to analyze ALL of the issues.

One of the more amusing things I read about the year "2000" scandals is a claim that there were more "Republican" scandals because people don't approach the group NOT in power in order to commit a "good" crime.

Republicans don't own a corner market on "morals".
The fact that you have repeatedly IGNORED people pointing out corruption in your own party (and associates) helps underline exactly how PARTISANSHIP can help people to ignore the bigger picture.


Shouldn't I be saying that to you?
Nowhere have I excused criminal conduct. NOWHERE.

What I HAVE done is try to stop false blame where none belongs.

I feel like I should take a mirror approach and start up a new thread on Republican pedophiles. And then when you try to perform some tricks to ignore the issue, or you refuse to even broach it, I should then accuse you of something similar...
But I think the bigger picture lesson would be lost on you...

YOU are trying to negatively attack DEMOCRATS for what is, in reality, a CASUAL relationship.
NOT a causal one.


I'm sorry, but again, why do you think you own this message board?
Repeatedly, you ignore the points of others to insist that they HAVE to talk about what you want to talk about.
Here, you IGNORE the detraction of others to complain that people aren't fixating on your myopic view of "let's look at only the democrat problems and declare a specifically negative democrat conclusion based on my myopia".


If you can't handle the detraction, maybe you should consider blogging.
Otherwise, I'm going to continue to point out the holes in your claims.
I'm going to continue to point out WHY your claims are ridiculously flawed.



A while back, Tom DeLay should have stepped down BECAUSE OF the Republican's OWN RULES.
But for a ridiculously long time, he ignored those rules. Little to nothing was done...

George Bush stated he was going to get to the bottom of the Plame affair, and that the people under him were going to cooperate. But then when one of his own was found to be OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE, people on the right cheered as Bush pardoned "Scooter".

Your categorizations are as convenient for you as they are lacking in REAL substantiation.

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What a load of crap. Relative morality? The right lives on it. Whether its rendition or torture. Or the need to gather peoples private info without warrant. The entire justification for the Iraq war.
I just watched a report about the land deals congressman have been carving out for themselves. From Denny Hastard on down to my local Ken Calvert. So don't bring Resko in to this. You guys have many more land grab issues in your own party.