Mikeyy:
It would be wrong of me to tell you that your house was on fire, Mikeyy.....unless it was actually on fire. In that case, you should be concerned....

You didn't answer the entire point. Don't you think we are in a much stronger PR position after we have made a visible attempt to negotiate a fair agreement? Doesn't that improve our position? To answer my own question, Of course it does.
If you are sure that our position is right and theirs is wrong what is the fear of exposing their position to daylight? We have nothing to fear from it. There is always time for war. It may look easier then diplomacy from where we stand. But then nobody is shooting at us.
If you want to analogize us as the parent in the store with the unruly child. I have always been able to outsmart kids. I usually get them to do what I want by diplomacy. Or maybe I trick them in to behaving right. But I have never had to beat or strike a child to accomplish my objective. So your analogy doesn't work for me.

Because the left thoguth that John Kerry's military service was a huge part of his qualifcation for POTUS and McCain's military service so grossly out-shines Sen. Kerry's that to try to impugn Sen. McCain's service would mean that either you don't believe that Sen. Kerry's serviec record was meaningful at all or that those of you who think that Sen. McCain's service record is lacking are complete hypocrites. (THAT was a hell of a sentence )

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

"... or I'm going to count to 3" Teached kids that they only have to obey after "2". It's the liberal approach to terrorism: "I'm going to count to 3. 1.... 2...... ......... OK, I really mean it this time 1............... 2..................... That's it!! This is the last time I'm going to count to three!! 1................................................. ........ 2................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ...... Why won't they listen to me????"

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Our nation has not always lived up to its ideals, yet those ideals have never ceased to guide us. They expose our flaws, and lead us to mend them. We are the beneficiaries of the work of the generations before us and it is each generation's responsibility to continue that work. - Laura Bush

God is a conservative -

Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

The world allowed Saddam Hussein to stay in power under certain, specific conditions (Gulf War Truce). Since that time he thumbed his nose at those conditions. Sixteen resolutions leading up to Resolution 1441 over a twelve year period of time in which he denied inspectors the opportunity to come in and have a look.

He provided refuge to the man who was responsible for bombing the World Trade Center in 1993.

Didn't he make an attempt on George H. W. Bush's life?

In 1998 President Bill Clinton signed the Iraqi Liberation Act, calling for regime change in Iraq...the removal of Saddam Hussein.

When it came to a vote in Congress in 2001 to approve going to war with Iraq to remove him, the House approved 420-1. The Senate also approved.

At that very time Bush enjoyed an 85% approval rating, and many Democrats who would soon after begin to undermine, attack and blame Bush for going to war made strong....very strong statements of support and approval for the decision to go to war. It makes me sick to think that these people would begin to change their minds so shortly after our men and women crossed the line into harm's way.

Yesterday on Fox News Bob Barr said that he approved of going to war in Iraq but was misled by Bush, not knowing that it was going to be a long, drawn out affair with no end dates in sight. Well, I have news for Bob Barr: Bush stated since day one that this was going to be a long war. Bob Barr better own up to his decision, and he ought to be honest about Bush.

I'm voting for John McCain because I want someone who is going to respond to what our enemies are saying and doing with....warfare.

OBL is probably in Pakistan. The spread of rogue states with nuke programs was facilitated there. The plots on our country are coming from there. They are training there. They may end up with nukes there. The administration refuses to get them there. We had multinational support there. We turned our attention from there. And now because we have turned our attention from Afghanistan the Taliban is gaining strength all over Pakistan.

Saddam was never a serious threat to us. He tried to pull stuff. And we would catch him and shut him down. And even igf you want to make a case for going after Saddam. There was no reason we had to rush. You guys never address all of the early indications the administration was trying to make the connection. You have everyone from Paul O'Niell to Richard Clarke saying they were specifically itching to find a Iraqi connection.
Now given the history. If I was just guessing who was behind 9-11 I would have said Libya at the time. I didn't know about Bin Ladin. But I did know about the flight they bombed over Scotland. Even though Saddam was a dick. It wasn't his M.O.

Hmmm....I think you might be on to something, Mikeyy. Let's make war with Pakistan, because no sooner would we do so and then liberals would be crying that Iran is the real threat that we should be facing!

It's always never where we are with a liberal....

Why do you want to get partisan? I am liberal on some things conservative on others. What does that have to do with the facts I posted. I have always thought Iraq was a diversion because we didn't want to face down Pakistan. I have always supported going after the terrorists. Look at the poll numbers when we were doing just that. So why do you guys always want to make the left look weak. That really pisses me off. Democrats have been shedding their blood for this country for a long damn time. Being that the majority of those who served in Nam were probably Democrats. In fact the chances that five of them served in Cheney's place is highly likely. Somebody had to replace he and Rush's fat asses.
Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. And you usually stay above that sort of thing.

Ummmm....not for nothing, Mikeyy, but you are taking my comments too personally.

I'm not attacking you.

Well who are these liberals you are talking about. Or is that just a stereotypical comment?