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Old 06-25-2008, 03:37 PM
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Mike Klonsky has had a blog on Obama's official website for a few months now (His first article is from February)...

Soooo who's Mike Klonsky?...

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Michael Klonsky (born 1943) is an American educator and political activist. He is perhaps most famous for being National Secretary of Students for a Democratic Society in 1968...

...On May 12, 1969, Klonsky and four other SDSers were arrested at the organization's Chicago national headquarters for assaulting a police officer, interfering with a firefighter, and inciting mob action[/B]. A prank call to a local police station said there had been a shooting at SDS' offices. When the police arrived, Klonsky and the others were convinced it was a ruse to gain access to SDS' offices.[1] Klonsky convinced the police everything was fine, when a second prank call brought local firefighters to the scene. When the police attempted to force entry to the offices, Klonsky and the others resisted. Convinced state repression of SDS was coming, Klonsky told a national television audience on CBS' "Face the Nation" that police repression of the New Left was being planned by the U.S. Department of Justice...

...At SDS' June 1969 national convention in Chicago, Klonsky played a major role in the dissolution of the organization. A group of 11 SDS national leaders—including Bernardine Dohrn, Jeff Jones, John Jacobs, Mark Rudd, Bill Ayers, Terry Robbins, and Howie Machtinger—had met in April and May of 1969 to craft a response to PL supporters within SDS. Their article, "You Don't Need A Weatherman to Know Which Way the Wind Blows," was published in New Left Notes on June 18, 1969, the day the convention opened. The "Weatherman" statement denounced imperialism and racism, and repudiated PL's claim that youth culture was bourgeois. The Weatherman statement called for revolutionary violence at home to stop imperialism, and the formation of collectives in major cities to support violence and stop factionalism.
Maybe you'd like to see a little more from our Weatherman friend?...

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In late 1969, Klonsky founded the October League, a communist party which in 1977 became the Communist Party, Marxist-Leninist. He was elected the party's chairman. The group opposed Gay Liberation and supported the regime of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Shah of Iran. Klonsky made several trips to China beginning in July 1977, where he was warmly received by government and Communist Party of China officials and treated to state dinners.
Now either you believe that Obama complicitly allows this thing to happen on his blogs because of his association or you believe that their campaign site is run by such ignorant people that they unknowingly and freely let anyone who feels like blogging get their own page...

Of course, you could easily say "maybe Obama doesn't know anything about this loon and doesn't want anything to do with him!"...

tsk, tsk, tsk...Not so easy, my compadres...read on...

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In 1991, Klonsky co-founded the Small Schools Workshop in Chicago
Co-founded?...

Wonder who co-founded it with him?...

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William Ayers, Distinguished Professor of Education and Senior University Scholar at the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC), and founder of both the Small Schools Workshop and the Center for Youth and Society, teaches courses in interpretive and qualitative research, urban school change, and teaching and the modern predicament.
Okaaaaayy...

So what does this have to do with Barack Obama?...

Well let's look at the grant support for this workshop...

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Grants obtained for the support of the Small Schools Workshop and/or the Chicago Forum for School Change at the University of Illinois at Chicago, co-director, principal investigator.

Annenberg Challenge -1997 - 260,000
Annenberg Challenge?...What's that?...



Hmmm....wonder who the chairman of the Annenberg Challenge was in 1997....

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Obama served on the board of directors of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge from 1995–2002, as founding president and chairman of the board of directors from 1995–1999
There you have it folks...

Mike Klonsky - Communist leader...and along with Bill Ayers, promoter of American terrorism, created a school workshop that received a grant from the Annenberg Challenge, the Chicago branch created by Bill Ayers and had Barack Obama as president and chairman, and now Klonsky gets his own little blog on Obama's offical website...

But you're not supposed to believe in "guilt by association", eh?...

Let's look back at what Obama said about Bill Ayers...

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At the debate, Obama said of Ayers: “This is a guy who lives in my neighborhood, who's a professor of English in Chicago who I know and who I have not received some official endorsement from. He's not somebody who I exchange ideas from on a regular basis. And the notion that somehow as a consequence of me knowing somebody who engaged in detestable acts 40 years ago, when I was 8 years old, somehow reflects on me and my values doesn't make much sense.”
When Bill Ayers started the Annenberg Challenge and YOU became the founding president and chairman of it, you weren't 8 years old dummy...

Only your blind supporters are willing to bypass it...
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I didn't read the entire PDF, but it looks like the Annenberg Challenge is a group that started out to reform education within the schools then started focusing more on community activism.
Not an unlikely occurrence. Maybe I missed something, but what does this have to do with Obama's credibility?
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I didn't read the entire PDF, but it looks like the Annenberg Challenge is a group that started out to reform education within the schools then started focusing more on community activism.
Not an unlikely occurrence. Maybe I missed something, but what does this have to do with Obama's credibility?
Annenberg's attempts at school reform and upgrades are legendary and credible...

But the local Chicago branch was started by admitted and unrepentant terrorist Bill Ayers (I'm assuming the Annenberg Challenge didn't "vet" that...I don't seeing them greenlighting this had they known...If they did, than that's just sad)...

So we have a domestic terrorist taking money from a legit foundation so he can start his own local branch and then granted himself (& Kinosky) over $200,000 to help a workshop in which they co-founded...(and if you look at their history, you can get an idea of what kind of platform this workshop has)...

Obama was the president and chairman of the foundation during all of this, yet through his own words, he wants the public to believe that Ayers was just some "guy who lives in my neighborhood"...
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Disturbing. More so than any of the Obama bashing attempts in the media. I have private thoughts about communism. Experiences from long ago that make me wonder if there is something to this. One thing I will say is Communism is alive and well in America.

I don't know what affect this news would have on me if I was planning to vote for Obama. Seems once you cross over to rally for him you get swept up in a movement.
Thanks for the story.
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I didn't read the entire PDF, but it looks like the Annenberg Challenge is a group that started out to reform education within the schools then started focusing more on community activism.
Not an unlikely occurrence. Maybe I missed something, but what does this have to do with Obama's credibility?
It's juat another case that taken alone is pretty benign, but when considered along with the growing body of other issues of the same type form a picture of someone who is associated with a lot of criminal radicals, racists, classists and nutcases. The left is trying to dismiss this stuff by focusing on these issues individually, while the right is trying to show the cohesive whole. There's a kind of synergistic effect that the left is trying incredibly hard to ignore and it's this effect that we on the right are hugely concerned about in regards to Sen. Obama's credibility. He seems to draw these kind of radical/criminal types like flies to a cowpie, and that's NOT a good thing.
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It's juat another case that taken alone is pretty benign, but when considered along with the growing body of other issues of the same type form a picture of someone who is associated with a lot of criminal radicals, racists, classists and nutcases. The left is trying to dismiss this stuff by focusing on these issues individually, while the right is trying to show the cohesive whole. There's a kind of synergistic effect that the left is trying incredibly hard to ignore and it's this effect that we on the right are hugely concerned about in regards to Sen. Obama's credibility. He seems to draw these kind of radical/criminal types like flies to a cowpie, and that's NOT a good thing.
Such hypocrisy, when the right chose not only to ignore Bush/Cheney's contempt for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights, but sided with them in their attempts to subvert the rule of law...
And now the vote for legislation being touted by Dodd and Feingold, to refuse to give immunity to the telecommunication operatives (AT&T, and the like), which could very well result in impeachable offenses committed by this corrupt administration, stand in jeopardy, because once again, the Democratic leadership has capitulated to the evil , morally bankrupt Republican Congress, which seeks to protect Bush/Cheney at all costs.
The right can no more talk about credibility than than the Nazis could talk about human rights. In fact, the whole affair is strangely similar, in nature, isn't it? Not a good thing, on the part of the right, is a gross understatement.
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Do you have anything to say about Sen. Obama's association with this guy???
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Do you have anything to say about Sen. Obama's association with this guy???
Sure do not....do you have anything to say about McCain association with and being a part of the Keating 5?
See, what you people are trying to do, is find "dirt" wherever there is gravel, and gravel wherever there are rocks....'cept we ain't buying it, because we understand your motivation.....I don't care what you find, who you say he's connected to, or anything else...I'm voting for him, and so are "millions" of other folks.
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Sure do not....do you have anything to say about McCain association with and being a part of the Keating 5?
See, what you people are trying to do, is find "dirt" wherever there is gravel, and gravel wherever there are rocks....'cept we ain't buying it, because we understand your motivation.....I don't care what you find, who you say he's connected to, or anything else...I'm voting for him, and so are "millions" of other folks.
Then start a thread discussing Sen. McCain - Have a ball!!! But this discussion is about another "unwholesome" association for Sen. Obama. Try to stick to the subject and stop trying to distract any negative reports about Sen. Obama by turning the discussion into a rant against conservatives/Sen. McCain/psuedo-racism.
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