Who was my guy, saltwn?

Here's what I gather from our discussion thus far, saltwn, and you can correct me where I am wrong:

You hate racial prejudice and racism, every bit as much as do I. You are passionately opposed to it to the point that you are willing to speak out against its injustice, as would I. So to some extent we are on the same team here. Difference being, though, that I am much more concerned about real racial prejudice and racism where it exists. I have an equal amount of intolerance for false claims of racial prejudice and racism, and for one reason and one reason only....because false claims of racial prejudice and racism blurs our ability to see the truth of the real racial prejudice and racism that actually exists.

Am I wrong?

Unless you voted Independent or abstained, your guy was either Bush or Gore.
Both sides of that election had many infractions and weird happenings involving ballots. (Lost, found, thrown away ballots; not to mention the chad thing-please let's not get into that on this thread)

So I learned from that process that although I had seen the corruption of my guy's current opponent's operation, I was now (then) also convinced of my own party's corruption. That is one reason I became an Independent.
I wish there was a viable third party, not that they wouldn't be corrupted eventually. But maybe it would take them awhile to catch up to the current two main parties.

Ballot fraud, ballot 'losing', and more had been around for many years on both sides. I just didn't see it till that awful election cycle. I marvel at people who are still Party loyalists at this point in American history.

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Well, hey, here I thought we were discussing Obama's comments suggesting that the GOP will use race to scare voters....but what do I know?

So instead on answering my questions, you divert the subject to Pres. Bush....

How about we try this again??

What does his history show of being a uniter?

What is his foreign policy experience?

What is his experience as a military leader?

What is experience in the economic realm?

What are his qualifications for POTUS?

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Ecclesiastes 10:2--"A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left."

The reason why it is significant to use Bush as a gold standard for your questions is to defuse the notion that to be a effective and competent president or to be the opposite has nothing to do with the subtext.

George Bush promised in 2000, that he would bridge the partisan divide....he did not.

He had no foreign policy experience. None. Zip. Yet, that didn't prevent 1/2 the country voting for him.

He was no military leader....and was a lackluster military man, often AWOL.
So no cigar there, either.

As far as I know, Bush's only experience in the economic world was running several businesses his father got him into, "into the ground"...and he owned some Texas minor league baseball team, that produced Nolan Ryan. Big whoop.

So, Obama may not be as experienced and well-versed as Hillary Clinton, or John McCain, but he is at least as qualified as George Bush was, for the office. And given the fact that he is bright, intelligent, and articulate, bodes well for his tenure.

Kudoes on answering the question.

I've already given a similar answer repeatedly, but the "other side" () doesn't want to hear it. So I gave up.
They just want to repeat their ad hominem and their attacks against Obama without acknowledging their hypocrisy.
Of course their standards aren't real. Just look at the Republican leader quotes on how they attacked Clinton on Serbia, and then compare that to what the same people are saying today about Iraq.
Evidently, "flip-flop" doesn't count when it comes to defending a Republican / attacking a Democrat.

Good luck on getting an honest acknowledgement of that, cause I am not wasting my breath (at the moment) on it...
Especially not on a thread that's supposed to be devoted to the use of race in this election...

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At least he made every effort to do so, by any reasonable person's standards.

Do you think there might be people out there who are divisive at all costs?

What dimension are you living in?
Any reasonable person's standards?
Divisive at all costs?
You are not of this universe...try this one:

The Worst President in History? : Rolling Stone

I still stand by the fact that Bush was wrong on this...and Obama is also wrong...

A president (nay, no one), can unite people who simply choose not to be united...

The people who constantly point out Bush's quote as being a "uniter; not a divider" have a rooting interst on not being united...It's the same as saying "Ha ha!...I refuse to be your friend and it's you fault!"..

Also, his comments were made before the 2000 election...After that debacle, millions of Democrats personally blamed Bush for "stealing" the election and had no intention of being united whatsoever...In fact, to this day, many still hold that grudge...

How could anyone unite people with that mindset?...

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