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Old 06-09-2008, 11:10 AM
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Voters Give Media Failing Grades in Objectivity for Election 2008

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Just 17% of voters nationwide believe that most reporters try to offer unbiased coverage of election campaigns. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that four times as many—68%--believe most reporters try to help the candidate that they want to win.

The perception that reporters are advocates rather than observers is held by 82% of Republicans, 56% of Democrats, and 69% of voters not affiliated with either major party. The skepticism about reporters cuts across income, racial, gender, and age barriers.

Ideologically, political liberals give the least pessimistic assessment of reporters, but even 50% of those on the political left see bias. Thirty-three percent (33%) of liberals believe most reporters try to be objective. Moderates, by a 65% to 17% margin, see reporters as advocates, not scribes. Among political conservatives, only 7% see reporters as objective while 83% believe they are biased.

Given these results, it’s not surprising that 76% of voters believe the media has too much power and influence over elections. Just 3% believe the Fourth Estate has too little influence while 16% say the balance is about right.

Eighty-seven percent (87%) of Republicans believe the media has too much influence along with 80% of unaffiliated voters and 65% of Democrats.

Voters have little doubt as to who is benefitting from the media coverage this year—Barack Obama. Fifty-four percent (54%) say Obama has gotten the best coverage so far. Twenty-two percent (22%) say McCain has received the most favorable coverage while 14% say that Hillary got the best treatment.

At the other extreme, 43% say Clinton received the worst treatment from the media. Twenty-seven percent (27%) say the media was roughest on McCain and only 15% thought the media coverage was most unfair to Obama.

Looking ahead to the fall campaign, 44% believe most reporters will try to help Obama while only 13% believe that most will try to help McCain. Twenty-four percent (24%) are optimistic enough to believe that most reporters will try to offer unbiased coverage.

Even Democrats tend to believe their candidate will receive better treatment—27% of those in Obama’s party believe most reporters will try to help him win while only 16% believe they will help McCain. A plurality of Democrats—34%--believe most reporters will be unbiased.

Among unaffiliated voters, 44% believe reporters will try to help Obama and 14% believe they will try to help McCain. Seventy percent (70%) of Republicans expect Obama to receive preferential treatment while only 8% believe reporters will try to help McCain.
Unfortunately, none of this surprises me...
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Old 06-09-2008, 11:33 AM
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I am not surprised at all. Obama had a pretty good ride. Up until Rev. Wright he had a free ride. The press is still way up his butt. But just like the weather. That will change. They will find a chink in McCain or Obama and like maggots to a wound, they will feast.
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I am not surprised at all. Obama had a pretty good ride. Up until Rev. Wright he had a free ride. The press is still way up his butt. But just like the weather. That will change. They will find a chink in McCain or Obama and like maggots to a wound, they will feast.
The MSM wouldn't feast on Obama if they were starving. They want Obama as POTUS and will go to any length to see to it that he's elected. Obama's the thinnest, most under-qualified person ever to receive a major party nom. and the MSM simply ignores this fact. He's the worst candidate in recent memory (makes Kerry look good) and you'll never hear a word from the MSM about this. These are the questions the press should be asking over and over again:

"Sen. Obama what qualifies you to be the C.I.C. of the most powerful military on the planet?"

"Sen. Obama, you claim to be a uniter, yet your voting record shows you to be the most liberal Senator currently seated. Could you explain how someone with a one-sided view could possibly be portrayed as a uniter?"

"Sen. Obama, you claim to be a agent of change, yet your voting record shows you to be someone who completely toes the party line. Could you explain how you can claim this when you've shown no past indications of being willing to this?"

"Sen. Obama, what leadership experience do you have?"

Who here thinks that there's a cellophane dog's chance in a blast furnace of the MSM ever asking Sen. Obama these questions???
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The MSM wouldn't feast on Obama if they were starving. They want Obama as POTUS and will go to any length to see to it that he's elected. Obama's the thinnest, most under-qualified person ever to receive a major party nom. and the MSM simply ignores this fact. He's the worst candidate in recent memory (makes Kerry look good) and you'll never hear a word from the MSM about this. These are the questions the press should be asking over and over again:

"Sen. Obama what qualifies you to be the C.I.C. of the most powerful military on the planet?"

"Sen. Obama, you claim to be a uniter, yet your voting record shows you to be the most liberal Senator currently seated. Could you explain how someone with a one-sided view could possibly be portrayed as a uniter?"

"Sen. Obama, you claim to be a agent of change, yet your voting record shows you to be someone who completely toes the party line. Could you explain how you can claim this when you've shown no past indications of being willing to this?"

"Sen. Obama, what leadership experience do you have?"

Who here thinks that there's a cellophane dog's chance in a blast furnace of the MSM ever asking Sen. Obama these questions???
The press turns on everyone. Everyone.
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The press turns on everyone. Everyone.
True statement, but with a major caveat...

The press will always go with the farthest left...

McCain was the darling of the media (NYT endorsed him) when he was fighting with Bush or other "farther to the right" presidential candidates, but when he got the nomination, he was turned on because his new opponents weren't to the right of him anymore (The very same NYT)...

Same with Hillary...she was the darling of the left until someone EVEN FARTHER LEFT showed up...then she got thrown away like a used tissue...

So only the person deemed "the most left" at the time gets the shield...The second they lose that title they become the prey...
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The press turns on everyone. Everyone.
There's a substanial difference between nibbling on someone's toes and gutting, roasting them whole and serving them up for dinner (to stretch your analogy). Obama's been given the kid-glove treatment from day one. He's been the DNC's golden boy for over two years. I have a friend who goes to DC every year to pray over the "seats of power" and meet with Christian leaders there. Two years ago when he was there, he visited the DNC headquarters and even then, Obama's pictures were everywhere you looked. The MSM is nothing short of the DNC's mouthpiece and what the DNC wants, the MSM delivers. If Obama gets questioned by the media, you can bet it's going to be done in such a way as to make it look like he's capable of handling the media's questions and not in such a way as to truly challenge him.
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The MSM wouldn't feast on Obama if they were starving.
So the whole "Rev Wright" thing was a figment of my imagination?



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Unfortunately, none of this surprises me...
(This was from the first post in the thread...)

It is your burden and curse to be right...

But seriously, I can't quarrel with the general conclusions of the poll. I don't agree with some people's assessments on HOW FAR the "leanings" (my word) are going or have gone, but they are present...
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So the whole "Rev Wright" thing was a figment of my imagination?
It was nothing more than a little nibbling on the toes. Had they handled it as they should have, we would have seen/heard examples of Rev. Wright's past sermons along the same lines. Pair that with records of Obama's attendance (available through offering records) and we'd see just how much of this kind of thing the Senator had sat through. But that never happened, did it? They haven't hardly touched the issue of the ever-growing trend of failure in judgement in the people Sen. Obama associates with. They haven't touched on his lack of experience. They haven't touched on his grossly partisan voting record in the Senate.
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There's a substanial difference between nibbling on someone's toes and gutting, roasting them whole and serving them up for dinner (to stretch your analogy). Obama's been given the kid-glove treatment from day one. He's been the DNC's golden boy for over two years. I have a friend who goes to DC every year to pray over the "seats of power" and meet with Christian leaders there. Two years ago when he was there, he visited the DNC headquarters and even then, Obama's pictures were everywhere you looked. The MSM is nothing short of the DNC's mouthpiece and what the DNC wants, the MSM delivers. If Obama gets questioned by the media, you can bet it's going to be done in such a way as to make it look like he's capable of handling the media's questions and not in such a way as to truly challenge him.
Well I guess thats it. You had a friend who told you that the DNC has Obama pictures all over. So your religious friend gave false witness. And you believed that. I have agreed that Obama received special treatment. But lets not go crazy here. Now you have the media in the pockets of the DNC. And those comments are ignorant. at the least.
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Well I guess thats it. You had a friend who told you that the DNC has Obama pictures all over. So your religious friend gave false witness. And you believed that. I have agreed that Obama received special treatment. But lets not go crazy here. Now you have the media in the pockets of the DNC. And those comments are ignorant. at the least.
The funny thing is that my friend is a registered Democrat and duly elected commiteeperson for his local party. He's an incredibly honest person who wants to see the Dem. party returned to it's roots as the party that was once the voice of the "little man" and has been taken over by an elitist, psuedo-intellectual bunch of former and wanna-be hippies.

Obama has been the Golden Boy of the DNC (possibly not the Party, but definitely the leadership) for quite some time now. He's been being groomed for this job for the last two years and is a 100% pure unadulterated product of the DNC machine. He's the epitomy of all that is wrong with our gov't. He's under-qualified, he's grossly partisan, he's controlled by the Party and not directed by the needs of his constituents. He stands for everything that he claims to be against. When he talks about "change we can believe in", he's lieing through his teeth. He is not an agent for change, he is an agent for the same old political BS that's driven American politics for the last 50 some-odd years.

The media has either bought into the hype hook, line and sinker (in which case they are grossly incompetent) or they are in bed with the idea of getting Obama elected. They have given him the kid glove treatment from almost the very beginning. Never have I ever seen anything like this. It's grown steadily worse with every election and we're going to see the MSM go completely over the top this year. They want their guy elected and that guy is Obama. The good news is that people's trust in the MSM to maintain anything resembling a level objectivity is dropping like a stone. Their blatant attempts at menipulating the election outcomes by calling elections based on exit polls is the worst example of this. They are the ones disenfranchising people these days, not the gov't, not locals - the media.

It's time to remove the media from the election day equation.

How do you do that?? <pulls out the soapbox>

Vote by Mail. Mail out ballots to each and every registered voter in America. Then, count every single vote and don't release the results until they have been verified and the results locked down. Give the states until the day before Thanksgiving to have thier ducks in a row and the results turned into the Feds for counting. Then, on the day after Thanksgiving, release the results. No more exit polls, no more calling elections, no more disenfranching voters by telling them that it's useless for them to vote since the outcome has already been decided. No more tossing votes just because they can't effect the outcome (yeah, this happens in every state in the country - once the remaining votes can no longer effect the outcome, they stop counting). Additionally, this concept is cheaper, more convenient and enfranchises shut-ins (disabled), rural voters and the military. It allows people to sit down and really think about and research the issues/candidates.
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