Even if Obama harbored some racist views. Which is comical on its face. Considering he is multi racial.What do you fear he would do? This is all to ridiculous but what is it you fear from his connection to a wacko priest?

Amazing how he sure as hell ain't "silent" now.
And not a word as to why the Catholics get off scott free with this approach...

Like I have pointed out repeatedly, I am looking for more than just a past 10 second sound bite from one pastor, who everybody admits went crazy, and a no past demonstration from a priest.

You are ASSUMING that there should was "smoke" in the past to see the fire.



There's much ado over very little...
A lot of assumption. A lot of innuendo.
COMPLETE refusal for OTHERS who are in situations akin to Obama to take the type of responsibility they are demanding Obama take...

Maybe we should start judging the RNC by the same methods.
There are all sorts of crazed right-wing comments out there, from popular and influential religious leaders...

Bozo Speak in Black

"State Universities are breeding grounds, quite literally, for sexually transmitted diseases (including HIV), homosexual behavior, unwanted pregnancies, abortions, alcoholism, and drug abuse."
Dr. James Dobson

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."
Ann Coulter, This is War column, Sept. 13, 2001

"And, I know that I'll hear from them for this. But, throwing God out successfully with the help of the federal court system, throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools. The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way - all of them who have tried to secularize America - I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen'."
Thursday, Sept. 13, 2001--Rev. Jerry Falwell, in an appearance on Pat Robertson's The 700 Club

"The feminist agenda is not about equal rights for women. It is about a socialist, anti-family political movement that encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism, and become lesbians."
Pat Robertson, fundraising letter, 1992

"It's like guerrilla warfare. If you reveal your location, all it does is allow your opponent to improve his artillery bearings. It's better to move quietly, with stealth, under cover of night. You've got two choices: You can wear cammies and shimmy along on your belly, or you can put on a red coat and stand up for everyone to see. It comes down to whether you want to be the British army in the Revolutionary War or the Viet Cong. History tells us which tactic was more effective."
-- Ralph Reed, Los Angeles Times, March 22, 1992, admitting that he wants to deceive us regarding his true aims

"The Media is ruled by Satan. But yet I wonder if many Christians fully understand that. Also, will they believe what the Media says, considering that its aim is to steal, kill, and destroy?"
-- Rev. Jimmy Swaggart, The Evangelist, January 1988

"I want you to just let a wave of intolerance wash over you. I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good.... Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want pluralism."
-- Randall Terry, quoted in The News-Sentinel, Fort Wayne, Indiana, August 16, 1993

"We're going to bring back God and the Bible and drive the gods of secular humanism right out of the public schools of America."
-- Pat Buchanan, campaign address at an anti-gay rally in Des Moines, Iowa, February 11, 1996

"With all due respect to those dear people, my friend, God Almighty does not hear the prayer of a Jew."
--Bailey Smith, a founding father of Robertson's Christian Coalition, once told 15,000 people at a Religious Roundtable briefing in Dallas, June 26, 1994

"I want to coin a phrase here, and I don't mind help. What would be the communication version of "ethnic cleansing?" Because that's what in particular the homosexual activists try to do."
--Dr. Laura Schlessinger, August 11, 1999

How much endorsement / support for RNC candidates do you think we can find out of these people?

That is NOTHING compared to these relationships and was fully denounced.

When you can show that McCain thinks David Duke is a mentor and had a freindly relationship with Timothy McVie whose home was the FIRST place he went to launch his political career and still refuses to denounce him let me know.

Someone raised the issue of "fairness"..I pointed out that I posted negative comments on "both" Obama and McCain's associations with "controversial" clergy. McCain sought Hagee's endorsement.The thrust of my point is this,a candidates "association" with controversial clergy remains fair game! We can argue who's association was worse than the other but I think most people see my point.When a candidate "uses" religion for political gain there are some risks involved.One needs to walk softly when mixing politics and religion.It saves on embarrassing situations when they have to denounce the support they once sought.I think some of these politicians would throw God himself under a bus to get elected. God and his church should not be subjugated to a foolish political test and we are witnessing this truth as I speak.I guess only people that are truly near to God can hear the political insolence.

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This is not a fairness issue, are you saying that if we find out McCain sold state secrets to the ChiComs we can't discuss it unless we can make it fair so we have to find where Obama didn't something ANYTHING vaguing similar?


It is apples and I don't know............elephants

There is no comparison. The "sought" after is a stretch and when he found out some of the things he has said he reject him and the endorsement. He didn't go back week after week and actually listen to him spout racist hatred. Let's see he said a hurricane was cause by God to punish sin.........of gee a guess there has never been a preacher that did say God punishes sin and uses his powers to do so...........nothing in the Bible anything like that. But McCain still rejected him and the endorsement.

Compared to Obama and his decades old actually relationships, mentor relationships with Wright, Pfleger, Ayers, Meeks, lnad deals with Rezko, the church which supported black separatism and racist teachings.

Obama has extremely questionable judgment and honesty. He has yet to answer why he participated in and supported these racist anti-American hatefilled teachings and preachings.

You think everything should be balanced about the candidates how about Obama every laying everything on the line for his country, has he ever offered to or done so? We know what kind of judgement McCain displayed when his life was on the line, got anything equal to that with Obama? No we have someone who has played the Chicago political game, attended a hatefilled church who says we should elect him because he has good judgement yet seems to do a lot of apologizing for his lack of it.

There is a recurring trend whereby habitually, any sentence you start with "Are you saying..." is followed by some statement that is OBVIOUSLY NOT being said by the other poster...


1) The "sought after" is very important.
If a politician seeks after an endorsement from another person, that means they want the approval of that person. The politician deems the "sought after" person as worthy of utilizing as a judge of character.
One would expect care before "seeking after" an endorsement.

2) If a woman married a man who deceived her, and she later found out that he was abusive, that would be understandable. The woman's judgment would not be faulted.
But Hagee's "opinions" were fairly easily uncovered by the media. Indicating that McCain hastily engaged in seeking after an endorsement.


I'm still waiting on any proof that Wright "spouted racist hatred" "week after week".
He had an outburst about "damning America".

When given the spotlight, he acted a complete idiot.

But none of that means that he was just spewing racist b.s. from the pulpit all the time...
Like I have routinely pointed out, there has been ONE ten second sound-bite before Wright started his melt-down fiasco.
You would have thought that after all this time and digging, somebody would have been able to show something more if it was truly "week after week".


Speaking of "questionable honesty"...
You proclaim he "participated in and supported ... racist anti-American hatefilled teachings and preachings" when you have absolutely no proof of that.

Again and for the last time,I did not raise this as a fairness issue! You have a nasty habit of attempting to pervert other people's posts.I never said we had to make anything fair,understood?



You mean it's like McCain the pot calling Obama the kettle black?

The hell there is no comparison,McCain activly sought Hagee's endorsement.There is no question concerning that fact. When it all went sour,he distanced himself frpom Hagee like Obama distanced himself and rejected Wright's rhetoric. When a candidate decides to "use" the church,caution is highly recommended. I'm sure that McCain and Obama have both learned valuable lessons,at least I hope so....

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