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Okie doke...Then I retract my "BTW"...

The rest of the post still stands...

Another NEW BTW - This is NOT the first time Obama peddled this story...

Let's look at Obama's speech on Iraq from 2002...

Fellow soldiers who "first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka"?...

Nope...Not unless Patton was leading the Red Army...Because American troops didn't enter Auschwitz and Treblinka...It was (again) the Soviets...

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But that's OK...I WANT a president that likes to make up things about their personal life and the lives of their relatives to prove a point...Makes me more confident in their judgement and character.

Like when he said he was born because his parents met at the Selma rally during the height of civil rights marches; which is kinda tough considering he was born 4 years BEFORE Selma...
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Why does anyone care about what his Grandfather did or didn't do in the first place?

And I forgot about the whopper he told about his parents, guess the MSM just let that one die too.
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err.. I don't think that I have ever referred to any of my great uncles as other than "my uncle" unless someone asks me to clarify the relationship. It is not a lie -- or even a misspeak. Great uncles are uncles.
Kind of a stretch he was making, what was his point anyway?
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Why does anyone care about what his Grandfather did or didn't do in the first place?
It was Obama's way way of connecting himself to the military since he has no direct connections of his own...

Funny...In 2004, the Left went ga-ga for Kerry because he had more military experience than Bush, and they kept pushing that throughout the whole campaign...

So what do they do in the very next election?...they have a primary narrowed down to 2 people with no military experience whatsoever...

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And I forgot about the whopper he told about his parents, guess the MSM just let that one die too.
This site (obviously against Obama) has a documented list of 50 flubs, gaffes, and outright lies Obama has said or done...
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Kind of a stretch he was making, what was his point anyway?

No, not a stretch at all. A great uncle is an uncle.

What difference does it make what his point was? Read the transcript of the speech; I am sure it answers that question.

The point here is that calling his grandmother's brother his uncle is, by no stretch of the imagination. a lie. It is just some little nit for Obama bashers to pick on.
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No, not a stretch at all. A great uncle is an uncle.
No on the geneology chart he is a great Uncle who may not even be a blood relative. It's a stretch.

Did Obama even know him, was this great-uncle an influence on him?

What was his point?

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What difference does it make what his point was?
ROFL, so he just makes pointless speeches then?

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Read the transcript of the speech; I am sure it answers that question.
You don't know then.

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The point here is that calling his grandmother's brother his uncle is, by no stretch of the imagination. a lie.
It is.

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It's a big difference.


it's just more of the same.
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Does anyone really care about this? Is this going to change your vote? OMG
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No on the geneology chart he is a great Uncle who may not even be a blood relative. It's a stretch.

Did Obama even know him, was this great-uncle an influence on him?

What was his point?



ROFL, so he just makes pointless speeches then?



You don't know then.



It is.

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It's a big difference.


it's just more of the same.

[sarcasm]So when I refer to my great uncles as uncles I am a liar. Good to know that. [/sarcasm]

Your argument is probably the stupidest Obama bashing that I have ever seen And that is saying a lot.
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[sarcasm]So when I refer to my great uncles as uncles I am a liar. Good to know that. [/sarcasm]
No they are still granduncles, which is the proper term.

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Your argument is probably the stupidest Obama bashing that I have ever seen And that is saying a lot.
What arguement, that there is a difference between an uncle and a granduncle?

Is there a difference between a father and a grandfather? Yes.

He was speaking in a formal setting and should use the proper term.

So what was his point anyway, did he know this "uncle" was this uncle some influence on him?
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Does anyone really care about this? Is this going to change your vote? OMG
A lot of regular people would have qualms about voting for someone to be their President when he's already demonstrated he just 'makes shit up'. I thought the left was supposed to leery of that because they felt so betrayed over the inaccurate intelligence regardings WMD's. I suppose that was all just rhetoric. Dems obviously think it's OK for Dems to fabricate ...

Let's hope that if he is elected he is just making up all these wild convictions of his, like unconditionally negotiating with terrorist regimes, invading Afghanistan, forcing oil companies to leave their profits overseas, immediate withdrawal from Iraq, and on and on ....

I'm sure if it turns out that he was just making all that up, Dems will be happy as long as he raises taxes and appoints judges who will write new laws.
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I think Obama's lack of military service is a big stumbling block for some voters in the present climate of war. And he knows it. Yes he is trying to make a connection here. And yes if that was his (and his advisers) intention, then he should have used proper terms and made sure someone did a little research on the subject before he brought the matter up in a speech!
It does not bode well for a candidate who is seeking the highest office when we are at war with an elusive cut-throat enemy such as al-Qaeda.
What we woulda-coulda-shoulda done to prevent this war is not the point in our present time frame. Sensible people, whether they like Bush or not, are looking for decisiveness in a leader of the free world. Comments made by Clinton
or Obama in reference to a connection to the military only point to McCain's real service in war time. Both Democrats would do well to concentrate on their own positives.
They are both dropping the ball- and if they keep this up- guess who will stroll onto the court, Jordenesque style, and put it in the basket?
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