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Hillary Clinton today brought up the assassination of Sen. Robert Kennedy while defending her decision to stay in the race against Barack Obama.

"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out

Obama's camp immediately fired back.

"Sen. Clinton's statement before the Argus Leader editorial board was unfortunate and has no place in this campaign," Obama campaign spokesman said in a statement.

Clinton made her comments at a meeting with the Sioux Falls Argus-Leader's editorial board while campaigning in South Dakota, where she complained that, "People have been trying to push me out of this ever since Iowa."...

...Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson defended the comments to The Post, "She was talking about the length of the race and using the '68 election as an example of how long the races in the past have gone -- she used her husband's race in the same vein."
I understand her point, and it's not the way Obama and his supporters are twisting it, but rest assured, it'll be a big topic on the pundit trail tomorrow...
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"My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it," she said, dismissing calls to drop out
The first statement sounds like a rational argument by itself.
And it stands BY ITSELF.

Then to bring up "Bobby Kennedy"...
It's a SPECIFIC (and second) example, and CHOOSING that example should not go ignored.

If she had said something about "And Obama might make another comment alienating white collar America", I would have rolled my eyes, acknowledged a semblance of a point, then moved on.
But she did NOT say it like that.

She brought up a Presidential Candidate who was ASSASSINATED.
Come ON now.
How are we REALLY supposed to take that?
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The first statement sounds like a rational argument by itself.
And it stands BY ITSELF.

Then to bring up "Bobby Kennedy"...
It's a SPECIFIC (and second) example, and CHOOSING that example should not go ignored.

If she had said something about "And Obama might make another comment alienating white collar America", I would have rolled my eyes, acknowledged a semblance of a point, then moved on.
But she did NOT say it like that.

She brought up a Presidential Candidate who was ASSASSINATED.
Come ON now.
How are we REALLY supposed to take that?
Is there another historical example she could've used?...You proposed a hypothetical...
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Is there another historical example she could've used?...You proposed a hypothetical...
Oh yes.
It's much better to go with the real life assassination (the specter of which has already been bandied about by pundits for the black candidate), than go with a "hypothetical" that is based on a comment Obama REALLY made...

I mean for Pete's sake, you guys seem to dig up a new issue that should derail Obama (in your opinion) every week.
Why not make a "hypothetical" about those real life instances...

Quite frankly, if you want to go through real life vs hypotheticals, if she only has two to pick from then that has to say something UNDERMINING her attempted point.
And if "assassination" is what it would take to uproot the situation this late in the game, then that's another aspect of her statement which should not go ignored...
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Oh yes.
It's much better to go with the real life assassination (the specter of which has already been bandied about by pundits for the black candidate), than go with a "hypothetical" that is based on a comment Obama REALLY made...

I mean for Pete's sake, you guys seem to dig up a new issue that should derail Obama (in your opinion) every week.
Why not make a "hypothetical" about those real life instances...

Quite frankly, if you want to go through real life vs hypotheticals, if she only has two to pick from then that has to say something UNDERMINING her attempted point.
And if "assassination" is what it would take to uproot the situation this late in the game, then that's another aspect of her statement which should not go ignored...
Funny...

You claim I dig up stuff to derail Obama in a thread where I think that Hillary will be derailed by the media...
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The narcissism of the Democrat candidates never ceases to amaze me.

This on top of Bill suggesting that Chelsea would make a great President......
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Funny...
You claim I dig up stuff to derail Obama in a thread where I think that Hillary will be derailed by the media...
How is that "funny"?

The "liberal media" is actively seeking to derail both Democrat candidates.
< end sarcasm >

There is no contradiction there.
And before you point out the obvious, the media is obviously looking at McCain too.
How much attention each candidate is getting is another matter...
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How is that "funny"?

The "liberal media" is actively seeking to derail both Democrat candidates.
< end sarcasm >

There is no contradiction there.
And before you point out the obvious, the media is obviously looking at McCain too.
How much attention each candidate is getting is another matter...
The media has it in for Clinton because she is PREVENTING efforts from the Democrats and the media from focusing squarely on McCain in their fight to gain the presidency...

They want her out because she is a distraction...The money and attention used by Obama to combat Hillary in the last 10 primary states (and upcoming 3 and PR) could've been money and attention used against McCain right now, so she is considered an enemy to them...

They DON'T WANT the actual voting process to be played out...
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And we get another "if you are offended then I apologize"..........and if you weren't then I don't.
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The media has it in for Clinton because she is PREVENTING efforts from the Democrats and the media from focusing squarely on McCain in their fight to gain the presidency...

They want her out because she is a distraction...The money and attention used by Obama to combat Hillary in the last 10 primary states (and upcoming 3 and PR) could've been money and attention used against McCain right now, so she is considered an enemy to them...

They DON'T WANT the actual voting process to be played out...
< foundit66 wonders what to do when he partly agrees with cnredd >


I would substitute "democrats" in for the first "the media", and then the only thing I would add is that there are some "justifications" being made for why the "actual voting process" is perceived as not needed to be played out, but I agree with you.



And therefore, by YOUR approach, that must make you wrong!

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