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A new poll says Bush — not Wright or Bill Clinton — is voters' main concern


WASHINGTON - Sen. Barack Obama’s ties to the Rev. Jeremiah Wright could hurt his presidential hopes. So could his comment about “bitter” small-town America clinging to guns and religion. And Americans might question Sen. Hillary Clinton’s honesty and trustworthiness.

But according to the latest NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll, the bigger problem appears to be John McCain's ties to President Bush.

In the survey, 43 percent of registered voters say they have major concerns that McCain is too closely aligned with the current administration.

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36 percent have major concerns that Clinton seems to change her position on some issues (like driver’s licenses for illegal immigrants and the North American Free Trade Agreement, which her husband signed but which she now opposes)
34 percent say they’re bothered by Obama’s “bitter” remarks
32 percent have a major problem with the Illinois senator’s past associations with Wright and the 1960s radical William Ayers
27 percent have serious concerns that Bill Clinton would have too much influence on U.S. policy decisions if his wife is elected


I realize fixating on Obama right now is popular because the press is SOOOOO "liberal".
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But when Hillary or Obama come out victorious, McCain is going to be in a tight spot in trying to appease "pro-Bush" Republicans, while not alienating a vast majority how don't approve of Bush.
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I really hope the election doesn't play out the way this poll is swaying...

America thinking McCain is too much like Bush is far better than an Obama administration that should be called "Carter's second term"...
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Poll answerers give the answers that the media "teaches" them. When you ask specific questions you quickly learn and can easily show how much of what people spout just isn't so.

Facts are that Mccain has been a "liability" for Bush and all conservatives. Bush has been a liability for conservatives. The "problem" is going to be to get conservatives to support Mccain. He hasn't convinced me yet...even against those other two guys. I don't have a candidate in this fight.
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Poll answerers give the answers that the media "teaches" them. When you ask specific questions you quickly learn and can easily show how much of what people spout just isn't so.

Facts are that Mccain has been a "liability" for Bush and all conservatives. Bush has been a liability for conservatives. The "problem" is going to be to get conservatives to support Mccain. He hasn't convinced me yet...even against those other two guys. I don't have a candidate in this fight.
I'm in the same situation,I don't really have a candidate yet. I'm so desperate I'm even considering Bob Barr of the Libertarian party..
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McCain is going to be in a tight spot in trying to appease "pro-Bush" Republicans, while not alienating a vast majority how don't approve of Bush.
I'm not sure there are that many 'pro-Bush' Republicans. I mean, there are plenty of people who support a portion of his agenda, but most of them are disenchanted with the package as a whole.

Personally, the thing most important to me (being fiscally conservative) is the one thing that really has ticked me off regarding Bush's shortcomings. Then again I don't expect anything better from McCain but not because I think McCain is an extension of Bush ... I think McCain is his own man. He's just not fiscally conservative either.
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I'm so desperate I'm even considering Bob Barr of the Libertarian party.
A growing sentiment, there. However ...

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Is Richard Viguerie Trying to Buy the Libertarian Party?


... Some of the principal officials working on the campaign for former Georgia Republican Congressman Bob Barr appear to be veteran "partyjackers." Barr finance operative Richard Viguerie, a longtime conservative fundraiser, mounted an unsuccessful hostile takeover attempt on the American Independent Party back in 1976. In 2000, Russ Verney, now Barr’s campaign manager, first opened the Reform Party up to a successful takeover by "the Buchanan Brigades," then defected and ran a rump convention to further split the party by nominating Natural Law Party invader John Hagelin.

Recent events within the LP show a similarly disturbing trend.

The convention organizers were told that they must invite Neal Boortz, a conservative Barr supporter, to be the speaker at the Sunday Banquet. Boortz had to cancel because of knee surgery, but the pattern of placing Barr supporters in many of the prominent speaking spots has continued.

The convention organizers were told that they must have Barr himself as the convention’s keynote speaker. After Barr launched his presidential exploratory committee, they were then told that his replacement would be Richard Viguerie. This choice of having Viguerie, a movement conservative, deliver the keynote was imposed on the convention organizers contrary to their own desire, which was to fill the slot with one of the many Libertarian speakers available and eager to fill the keynote slot.
Is Richard Viguerie Trying to Buy the Libertarian*Party?

Needless to say, whether or not one considers this 'sinister' or not would depend on how they feel about Barr and Viguerie, naturally, but just so you know, some of these 'Independent' parties may not be as independent as they pretend to be.
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I really hope the election doesn't play out the way this poll is swaying...

America thinking McCain is too much like Bush is far better than an Obama administration that should be called "Carter's second term"...
In that case I hope the Democrats are registering a lot of homeless folks. They'll be looking forward to a new crop of habitats for humanity after he's out of office.
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