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Old 05-20-2008, 05:27 PM
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I think each situation has its own set of problems and answers. And in each situation we need to have an open mind toward our goals without denying the other side some room to move.
Iran is very different than Cuba. Same as China and N. Korea, are now different.
But what the world needs to understand we aren't in the role of world policeman for the best for America alone. Sure we have some failed policies
abroad. But we also have done some good for the world as well like freedom, liberity and justice in some areas that never had that.

And we have helped some Muslims in what was a dangerous situation where they were going to completly wiped out.

We helped Afghanistan against the Russians. Yet for some reason I can't understand the same people we helped now what us dead!

I think we need to back off as the world police man roll. Let the UN and NATO cover the job. Let other countries do the spending and send their troops into harms way. Let them become a target for a while.
We spend as dues to the UN more than any country and what do we get for our support?

And Iraq maybe can be seen as a fool idea. But it has brought to light a lot
of the larger problems in the middle east. Besides placing a target on our America backs.

In reality this war in Iraq is a R&D for the Military Industrial Complex and all the new weapons developed and being developed and will be on line in months some a bit longer.
Just IMHO...............
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I think each situation has its own set of problems and answers. And in each situation we need to have an open mind toward our goals without denying the other side some room to move.
Iran is very different than Cuba. Same as China and N. Korea, are now different.
But what the world needs to understand we aren't in the role of world policeman for the best for America alone. Sure we have some failed policies
abroad. But we also have done some good for the world as well like freedom, liberity and justice in some areas that never had that.

And we have helped some Muslims in what was a dangerous situation where they were going to completly wiped out.

We helped Afghanistan against the Russians. Yet for some reason I can't understand the same people we helped now what us dead!

I think we need to back off as the world police man roll. Let the UN and NATO cover the job. Let other countries do the spending and send their troops into harms way. Let them become a target for a while.
We spend as dues to the UN more than any country and what do we get for our support?

And Iraq maybe can be seen as a fool idea. But it has brought to light a lot
of the larger problems in the middle east. Besides placing a target on our America backs.

In reality this war in Iraq is a R&D for the Military Industrial Complex and all the new weapons developed and being developed and will be on line in months some a bit longer.
Just IMHO...............
You know you are awful reasonable.
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Appeasement is a strong word,that said..discussion with terorists should not be undertaken without setting ground rules for the discussion.
And certainly the terrorist will abide by them............these ground rule............because terrorist always abide by the rules.................up hold their end of the deal..................are always trustworthy............play fair
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And certainly the terrorist will abide by them............these ground rule............because terrorist always abide by the rules.................up hold their end of the deal..................are always trustworthy............play fair
Do you know who invented car bombing? Jews trying to create Israel. And they used car bombs on the British. They were terrorists. Right?
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Do you know who invented car bombing?


It may be the first car bomb was the one used for the assassination attempt on Ottoman Sultan Abdul Hamid II in 1905 in İstanbul by Armenian separatists, in the command of Belgian anarchist Edward Jorris.
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And certainly the terrorist will abide by them............these ground rule............because terrorist always abide by the rules.................up hold their end of the deal..................are always trustworthy............play fair
I believe there is little chance for making the peace but discussion should be on the table but not without conditions being met.We have delt with terorists in the past and it included discussion. To deal only with "selected" terorists but not "all" terorists is hypocritical. Either deal with them all or kill them all but at least be consistent!
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I believe there is little chance for making the peace but discussion should be on the table but not without conditions being met.
The Bush position.

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We have delt with terorists in the past and it included discussion.
Who?

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To deal only with "selected" terorists but not "all" terorists is hypocritical.
To say their is some obligation to deal with one terrorist group because you have dealt with some other terrorist group is folly.

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Either deal with them all or kill them all but at least be consistent!
Are you kidding? THAT'S how you believe foreign policy should be managed and that Obama believes that.

If it is in our best self interest and the world's interest to deal with a group then do so if not then don't, THAT's all that matters.
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The Bush position.



Who?



To say their is some obligation to deal with one terrorist group because you have dealt with some other terrorist group is folly.



Are you kidding? THAT'S how you believe foreign policy should be managed and that Obama believes that.

If it is in our best self interest and the world's interest to deal with a group then do so if not then don't, THAT's all that matters.
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I can't respond to these broke up posts.
It's actually easier and you can if you want to, oh well.

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I believe there is little chance for making the peace but discussion should be on the table but not without conditions being met.

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The Bush position.

Now it's your turn to comment on that point

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