Obama plans to declare victory May 20

cnredd · #1 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 03:12 PM

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Not long after the polls close in the May 20 Kentucky and Oregon primaries, Barack Obama plans to declare victory in his bid for the Democratic presidential nomination.

And, until at least May 31 and perhaps longer, Hillary Clinton’s campaign plans to dispute it.

It’s a train wreck waiting to happen, with one candidate claiming to be the nominee while the other vigorously denies it, all predicated on an argument over what exactly constitutes the finish line of the primary race.

The Obama campaign agrees with the Democratic National Committee, which pegs a winning majority at 2,025 pledged delegates and superdelegates—a figure that excludes the penalized Florida and Michigan delegations. The Clinton campaign, on the other hand, insists the winner will need 2,209 to cinch the nomination—a tally that includes Florida and Michigan.

“We don’t accept 2,025. It is not the real number because that does not include Florida and Michigan,” said Howard Wolfson, one of Clinton’s two chief strategists. “It’s a phony number.”

Wolfson said they intend to contest the DNC’s 2,025 number “every day,” as well as any declaration of victory made by Obama based upon that number, because it does not include Florida and Michigan.

In January, Clinton won both states by wide margins when Obama did not actively contest them. The two states were stripped of their delegates for holding early primaries not sanctioned by the Democratic National Committee.

Obama will not reach the 2,025 magic number on May 20. Rather, on that date he is all but certain to hit a different threshold—1,627 pledged delegates, which would constitute a winning majority among the 3,253 total pledged delegates if Florida and Michigan are not included.

“On May 20 we’re going to declare victory,” said an Obama senior advisor who asked that his name be withheld to speak candidly, adding that after those contests they will be “the ones with the most pledged delegates and the most popular votes.”

This is going to alienate a hulluva lot of Hillary supporters...

And that declaration will be interpreted by Florida and Michigan that it's official...They don't count...

saltwn · #2 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 03:26 PM

May 20th is my wedding anniversary. We won't be celebrating together on that day so at least I can feed my political junkie monkey and watch some boob tube action!

Spencer Collins · #3 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 05:56 PM

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"Obama plans to declare victory May 20"

Since this has not been confirmed by a named source,I guess we will have to wait and see.Members of the opposition always feel alienated when their candidate fails to get the nomination.Most of them will support the party candidate especially if the so called Dream Ticket begins to take true form.I doubt that will happen but nothing would surprise me at this point.Unnamed sources have also claimed that there has been some discussion on this between the two camps.Maybe Obama is a little worried about defections from HC's camp?. Hillary may also be worried that she may have to wait 8 years for another shot at the presidency and that she would have to mount her next campaighn from the position of a loser in 08....time will tell.

Spencer Collins · #4 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spencer Collins

Since this has not been confirmed by a named source,I guess we will have to wait and see.Members of the opposition always feel alienated when their candidate fails to get the nomination.Most of them will support the party candidate especially if the so called Dream Ticket begins to take true form.I doubt that will happen but nothing would surprise me at this point.Unnamed sources have also claimed that there has been some discussion on this between the two camps.Maybe Obama is a little worried about defections from HC's camp?. Hillary may also be worried that she may have to wait 8 years for another shot at the presidency and that she would have to mount her next campaighn from the position of a loser in 08....time will tell.

Update

"``That will be an important day,'' Obama, 46, an Illinois senator, said in an interview on NBC today. If he has a majority of pledged delegates on that day, he said, ``Then we can make a pretty strong claim that, yeah, we've got the most runs and it's the ninth inning, and yeah, we've won.'' Obama

Source..Obama himself...

saltwn · #5 (**permalink**) 05-08-2008, 11:42 PM

Very interesting times. Hope I have my satellite or cable by then. I want one service for everything -Internet, T.V.-it's hard to decide cause I love Directv.

I will be watching from some perspective, I can assure you.

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