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All of those are what many would consider 'liberal' views of mine. Personally, I have a severe dislike of the terms 'liberal' and 'conservative' and would prefer to get rid of all political parties and just ****ing vote for people based on their views on issues important to us. The boxes are just silly to label and put people in.
I think if you don't like the terms, "liberal" and "conservative" try not using them at all.

I think it's difficult to do that.

This is the most partisan time in history that I can remember in my lifetime. Consider how different the last four years may have been if congress had acted in a bi-partisan manner. Compromise has all but disappeared.
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I think if you don't like the terms, "liberal" and "conservative" try not using them at all.

I think it's difficult to do that.

This is the most partisan time in history that I can remember in my lifetime. Consider how different the last four years may have been if congress had acted in a bi-partisan manner. Compromise has all but disappeared.
You will rarely, if ever, see me use the words 'liberal' and 'conservative'. And if I do, it's only to either correct someone who has called me one of those two things (and I've been called both, many times) or to suggest that we stop using those words. I don't look at things and think "that's liberal" or "that's conservative". I just see what is.

And congress is full of ****ing retards.
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You will rarely, if ever, see me use the words 'liberal' and 'conservative'. And if I do, it's only to either correct someone who has called me one of those two things (and I've been called both, many times) or to suggest that we stop using those words. I don't look at things and think "that's liberal" or "that's conservative". I just see what is.

And congress is full of ****ing retards.
I remember when congress were still "statesmen" and issues were debated, and the legislative branch held hearings designed to correct governmental errors.
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I read your OP, and I understand that what you wanted me to post is that everyone I know who voted for President Obama in the past is not voting for him this year.

That's not my experience, so that makes you unhappy.

I don't know anyone who didn't vote for President Obama in the past and who is voting for him this year. To know that would mean I'd been talking national politics with conservatives in my daily life. The only conservatives I discuss politics with are on forums like these.

I work in an elementary school and we don't discuss politics among the staff or with the children.

All of my close friends are liberal. When I encounter people I like who are conservatives I avoid discussing politics.
What I asked was about BOTH directions, not just one, as you are trying to make it sound. Try again. Since you teach in an elementary school, maybe you should sit in on some of the reading classes, since you clearly have an issue with this particular skill. I'd love to read your thoughts on the questions that you're being asked, instead of the questions the voice in your head is telling you are being asked.
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Some of my views are 'conservative'. Some are not. I'm about as non-partisan as they come.
I wouldn't call you "non-partisan", more like "**** no, I'm not partisan". "non" just doesn't quite carry the same level of indifference...
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What I asked was about BOTH directions, not just one, as you are trying to make it sound. Try again. Since you teach in an elementary school, maybe you should sit in on some of the reading classes, since you clearly have an issue with this particular skill. I'd love to read your thoughts on the questions that you're being asked, instead of the questions the voice in your head is telling you are being asked.
Here is my answer:

"I don't know anyone who didn't vote for President Obama in the past and who is voting for him this year. I know a lot of people who are voting for the President and most of them voted for him before. I know of one or two people who didn't vote for President Obama in the past and who are voting for him this year.

I don't usually talk politics with strangers in my daily life. The only conservatives I discuss politics with are on forums like these."


I answered both your questions. For doing so, I've had nothing but criticism from you.

You're not a whole lot of fun.
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Here is my answer:

"I don't know anyone who didn't vote for President Obama in the past and who is voting for him this year. I know a lot of people who are voting for the President and most of them voted for him before. I know of one or two people who didn't vote for President Obama in the past and who are voting for him this year.

I don't usually talk politics with strangers in my daily life. The only conservatives I discuss politics with are on forums like these."


I answered both your questions. For doing so, I've had nothing but criticism from you.

You're not a whole lot of fun.
Awwww... Am I not playing the game the way you want it to be played. Walk in integrity, honesty and intelligence and we'll get along great. Walk in intentional deceit and ignorance and I will call you out on it. Doing anything would be allowing you to be less than you could be and I dislike that idea.
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How many of you on this board know someone who didn't vote for Pres. Obama in the last election that are going to vote for him in this one?

How many of you on this board know someone who voted for Pres. Obama in the last election that aren't going to vote for him in this one?


I personally know at least four people who voted for Pres. Obama in the last election who aren't going to vote for him this time, but none who are going the opposite direction.
I tend to think that people who voted for Obama shouldn't be exposed to ballots any more than a person with a history of deep mental illness should be exposed to a pistol. Except that the Obama voter has probably caused more damage.

I still think that only about 25% of legally eligible people ought to vote.
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I tend to think that people who voted for Obama shouldn't be exposed to ballots any more than a person with a history of deep mental illness should be exposed to a pistol. Except that the Obama voter has probably caused more damage.

I still think that only about 25% of legally eligible people ought to vote.
I feel equally that anyone who would vote Republican at this juncture is at best delusional. But I would never take their right to vote away. That would be nearing an oligarchy even more than we are close to now. In fact it would be nearing a dictatorship.
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