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This is the AzMike on the election post.

The Obama turn out from 2008 is not going to happen, Obama has suddenly become the fringe candidate, almost a third party kind of candidate. His campaign has gone small, so small that his claim to the most powerful office in the world is counting on Big Bird, Binders and Romnesia to keep the position.

The black turnout is going to shrink, no doubt what he hasn't done for them is going to effect that vote. He will get the majority but the group will shrink as a whole. The still unemployed that never got the Bama stash money, or the Bama phone are still unemployed and eeking out an existence on food stamps and government hand outs. That doesn't drive people to the voting booth. Add in his support for gay marriage and now you isolated the core group of black Christians that is a huge part of this base. We just won't see the numbers voting for him this year.

The hispanic vote is also turning away. The only ones that will vote for him are the illegals, if they can. The rest want opportunity. Those I work with don't want another government telling them they can only get welfare they came here to do better on their own. Opportunity is what they want and they are willing to work for it. Not so happy with Fast and Furious either. They didn't come here so we could send a bunch of guns to the cartels they wanted to leave could terrorize their families in Mexico.

Women aren't so damn stupid they will base their vote on contraceptives and this non-war on women. Most women not named Fluke aren't preparing for a sex-athon with multiple partners at any given moment. They can afford protection when they need it and with the person they choose to be with.

So this pretty much leaves us with Obama holding a half full bag of votes. The polls are going to do what they do and make this race relevant. The media people need this close so we watch TV on election night. But this thing is over. Obama has failed in every demographic and promise he made. The debt is not half it doubled, the jobs aren't there, the panacia has not arrived for anyone.

I expect Obama to go into full scale panic over the next two weeks and start shouting huge amount's of stupid.

This race is over. Romney will be 45.
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I'd like to believe that, but NEVER underestimate the power of the media...

They have more invested in Obama than Obama has invested in this country...
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I'd like to believe that, but NEVER underestimate the power of the media...

They have more invested in Obama than Obama has invested in this country...
With Fox and MSNBC popularity; weigh in conservative local tv and possibly one other Democrat slant natl tv network; now throw in talk radio's overwhelming Republican slant. Also social networking cancels each other out due to almost 50-50 split in Americans on politics-social networking being the reflection of views and just as accessible to both party's ads=

0 media influence other than get out the vote incentives for people who are already fans of the candidates.
I think it is safe to say without the media the voter interest and quite possibly turn out would be less.
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I'd like to believe that, but NEVER underestimate the power of the media...

They have more invested in Obama than Obama has invested in this country...
Then there's voter fraud. That's good for at least 3 points Democrat. I haven't uncrossed my fingers yet.
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And with the junk polls of this election it's hard to know what's really happening. Have you seen that latest work of fiction from Time for Ohio?

Time Finds New Ways to Distort OH Poll for Obama

But the Dems are starting look more and more desperate, and the fire breathing throngs of people meeting R&R rallies would walk through blizzards to vote. Those are good signs.

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Then there's voter fraud. That's good for at least 3 points Democrat. I haven't uncrossed my fingers yet.
As I have maintained for the past week or so, election fraud comes onto play in a close election and that is with both parties. I will add that that is why I am glad the UN is overseeing at least part of this election. But that fraud is in processing and intimidation and counting (or not). imho
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And with the junk polls of this election it's hard to know what's really happening. Have you seen that latest work of fiction from Time for Ohio?

Time Finds New Ways to Distort OH Poll for Obama

But the Dems are starting look more and more desperate, and the fire breathing throngs of people meeting R&R rallies would walk through blizzards to vote. Those are good signs.
Yeah the polls are useless almost. each candidate's team is pushing those that favor their guy of course.
second point, the closeness of the race might be putting the Obama team in a different place than if he were in the clear lead. But then again, he did beat Hillary with an aggressive ground war in key states.
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As I have maintained for the past week or so, election fraud comes onto play in a close election and that is with both parties. I will add that that is why I am glad the UN is overseeing at least part of this election. But that fraud is in processing and intimidation and counting (or not). imho

Yeah the polls are useless almost. each candidate's team is pushing those that favor their guy of course.
second point, the closeness of the race might be putting the Obama team in a different place than if he were in the clear lead. But then again, he did beat Hillary with an aggressive ground war in key states.
Why in the world would you assume the the UN isn't even more corrupt than the people they're supposed to be watching? Based on what would you make such an assumption? These are the people who in recent years have allowed Syria to oversee Human Rights, and you seem to think they should be allowed to in any way have the slightest oversight of our elections?
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Why in the world would you assume the the UN isn't even more corrupt than the people they're supposed to be watching? Based on what would you make such an assumption? These are the people who in recent years have allowed Syria to oversee Human Rights, and you seem to think they should be allowed to in any way have the slightest oversight of our elections?
It's like living in a small town-keeps ya honest or you have to pick up your toys and go find a new home.
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It's like living in a small town-keeps ya honest or you have to pick up your toys and go find a new home.
Have you ever lived in a small town?!

People think it's about honesty. Often it's about, "I'll beat you up if you get my kid in trouble for stealing your prescription medication out of your house."

And, by the way, you can't get much farther away from the concept of a "small town," than the United Nations.
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I'd like to believe that, but NEVER underestimate the power of the media...

They have more invested in Obama than Obama has invested in this country...
So it wouldn't be that Americans like Obama better. It's all the media.
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