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Foreign policy, military funding and plans for U.S. troops abroad are providing plenty of chewy campaign fodder for President Barack Obama and his GOP rival, Mitt Romney. But fundraising reports shed light on what the armed forces think about the the candidates.

Former Republican presidential hopeful Ron Paul received significant support from the military for his strong stance on bringing troops home, and that briefly continued even after Romney pulled ahead as the clear GOP candidate.

Now, though, the military's support has shifted toward Obama. Romney has consistently received little financial backing from military donors.

Despite the fact that Paul once raised almost twice as much as Obama did from the military,* the president has received $536,414 from military donors, compared to Paul's $399,274 and Romney's $287,435, according to research by the Center for Responsive Politics. These numbers are based on donations greater than $200, as reported to the Federal Election Commission.

Below is a table of contributions from military and civilian employees of the military for the 2012 election cycle:
<chart at link>

Contributing $176,121, the Department of Defense is Obama's biggest supporter, with the Army not far behind with $165,646. The Navy sits in third at $86,656. In comparison, Romney's top military contributor is the Army with $115,458, followed by the Air Force with $90,611 in contributions.

However, although Obama's fundraising totals are higher than his opponent's, six of the 11 military branches the Center for Responsive Politics analyzed have given more to Romney -- most notably the Navy, the Air Force and the Marine Corps.

The Obama advantage comes even though he said $500 billion in military spending would be cut as part of the sequestration process to help balance the budget, while Romney has alluded to a multi-trillion-dollar increase over the next decade.

Despite the president's $100,000-plus lead over Romney and Paul in funding from the armed forces, the numbers didn't turn in his favor until March when Obama began receiving donations doubling Paul's.

On a month-by-month basis, the latest fundraising numbers are from August, which show Obama with a $140,761 to $90,273 lead over Romney. Both candidates received most of their August funding from the Army, with Obama pulling in about $21,000 more.

Below is a table of contributions from military and civilian employees of the military for the month of August:
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Although Vice President Joe Biden and Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) discussed national security and military funding during their debate last week, voters still are waiting for a more in-depth treatment of the issues from the presidential candidates. That may occur at tomorrow's second presidential debate at Hofstra University in New York.
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Yea hooray!
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Lets see who VOTES for Romney vs. Obama. I'll bet you that the military vote comes in at 60%+ for Romney.
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Lets see who VOTES for Romney vs. Obama. I'll bet you that the military vote comes in at 60%+ for Romney.
If they do it like they did during Vietnam you might be right.
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Lets see who VOTES for Romney vs. Obama. I'll bet you that the military vote comes in at 60%+ for Romney.
You may be right, but this info surprised me. A pleasant surprise, to be sure!!
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If they do it like they did during Vietnam you might be right.
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...and if they fail to count thier votes as they do most years, I might be wrong. The way that votes are counted, once there's a statistical impossibility that any further counting of votes will change the outcome of an election, they stop counting (it's a cost-saving decision). The votes that normally get counted last are the absentee ballots that were mailed at the last minute and these are VERY heavily military. Most years the military comes in at about 2:1 Repem, so there are a lot of Rep votes that go uncounted.
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You may be right, but this info surprised me. A pleasant surprise, to be sure!!
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Some people put their money where their mouth is, others put their vote where their mouth is.
We shall see...at least Obama is getting more money from them. It will be needed to combat the anonymous contributions through the super pacs.
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So I go to the website and find the headline is a stinking, poopypants, lying headline of astounding proportions...

If you look at their chart, they come out and TELL YOU that their headline is a friggin' lie...

This article is NOT about Armed Forces contributions...

It's about Armed Forces contributions COMBINED with government workers who live off of tax dollars...



Now if they SEPARATED the two and showed how much of these contributions were from the ACTUAL Armed forces ALONE and how much of it were from "civilian employees" ALONE we'd know the truth...
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natl defense U is a military training college and the other one is recon.
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