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Old 09-29-2012, 10:51 PM
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" Mr Obama, will you release your tax returns"?... Yes..
" Mr. Romney, Will you release your tax returns"? .. No..
"Mr. Obama, we need you to also release your College Transcripts"

Different standard.
Yes, I know you're holding the two to different standards. That's my point. Why do you consider it okay for obama not to release something he's not required to release but claim possible wrongdoing when romney refuses to release something he's not required to release?


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No I'm pointing out the possibility that he will do that, and if I had to put money on it I would bet he will at the earliest opportunity .
No, you don't say "it's possible", you state it as a matter of fact that he WILL.


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Obama has released multiple years of his tax returns to show the public that he is not hiding money, dodging taxes, or doing anything Illegal that would be a stain on the nations Highest office. It's not a different standard..



Read above..
Obama has used legal means to reduce his tax, so why don't you consider him a tax dodger like you do romney who also used legal means to reduce his tax? Please explain the different standard. You keep dodging the question.

Obama uses legal means to reduce his tax = okay
Romney uses legal means to reduce his tax = tax dodger

Please explain the double standard.

You: "If Willard is using legal means to pay less taxes IT MATTERS.. "
You also: If Obama is using legal means to pay less taxes it doesn't matter.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:19 PM
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Yes, I know you're holding the two to different standards. That's my point. Why do you consider it okay for obama not to release something he's not required to release but claim possible wrongdoing when romney refuses to release something he's not required to release?
You keep repeating the straw-man argument as if the answer is going to change.. If they were asking both candidates to release taxes AND college transcripts then you would have an argument.. They only asked for Tax records... Which Willard has refused... They are both being held to the same standard... Willard isn't living up to that standard... Man I hope you get it this time.

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No, you don't say "it's possible", you state it as a matter of fact that he WILL.
Maybe you assume I was stating it as a fact.. I would bet that he will though.

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Obama has used legal means to reduce his tax, so why don't you consider him a tax dodger like you do romney who also used legal means to reduce his tax? Please explain the different standard. You keep dodging the question.

Obama uses legal means to reduce his tax = okay
Romney uses legal means to reduce his tax = tax dodger

Please explain the double standard.
We know Obama has used legal means because he has released his tax records so we can see exactly how he reduced his tax burden.

Willard has not released his tax records so for all we know he is dodging taxes or using illegal means to reduce his taxes. We don't know because he is refusing to release said records.. It's not a double standard.

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You: "If Willard is using legal means to pay less taxes IT MATTERS.. "
You also: If Obama is using legal means to pay less taxes it doesn't matter.
We don't know for sure that Willard is using legal means.
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Old 09-29-2012, 11:36 PM
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You keep repeating the straw-man argument as if the answer is going to change.. If they were asking both candidates to release taxes AND college transcripts then you would have an argument.. They only asked for Tax records... Which Willard has refused... They are both being held to the same standard... Willard isn't living up to that standard... Man I hope you get it this time.
What the documents are isn't the issue. It's irrelevant.

You have stated that romney's refusal to disclose information that he's not required to disclose indicates he's "hiding something".

Obama has also refused to disclose information he's not required to disclose. But according to you, this doesn't indicate that he might be 'hiding something".

So again, why the double standard.


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Maybe you assume I was stating it as a fact.. I would bet that he will though.
Well, since you stated that he WILL go do it, that's stating it as fact. You didn't say he MIGHT go do it. You said he WILL go do it.

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We know Obama has used legal means because he has released his tax records so we can see exactly how he reduced his tax burden.

Willard has not released his tax records so for all we know he is dodging taxes or using illegal means to reduce his taxes. We don't know because he is refusing to release said records.. It's not a double standard.



We don't know for sure that Willard is using legal means.
You stated that using legal means was an issue. That the president shouldn't do anything to reduce his tax.

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If Willard is using legal means to pay less taxes IT MATTERS.. because he is the guy who might ultimately set the Law concerning taxes.
See?

Why is romney a tax dodger for using LEGAL means to reduce his tax, but obama is not a tax dodger for doing the same? Why does it matter so much if romney uses LEGAL means to reduce his tax - per your quote above, but it doesn't matter at all if obama does the same?


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Sorry, Xcali, your double-standards and false accusations have doomed you in this debate.

This is why it is best to think for yourself as opposed to blindly repeat political rhetoric.
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Sorry, Xcali, your double-standards and false accusations have doomed you in this debate.

This is why it is best to think for yourself as opposed to blindly repeat political rhetoric.
Nobody asked for your opinion Troll...
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