Nor are they going to be excited to vote for a lying, sleazy, sneaky candidate who flip flops like a fish on every issue. Willard is not liked even among republicans.. So the doom and gloom could slice both ways. At this point in the race it wouldn't surprise me to see a Third Party make a strong run in a lot of places.

Is that your way of saying you really cant defend Obama on his merits?

Clearly Obama had all the passion in 2008. He lost it by 2010 and hasn't gotten any of it back.

This race is going come down to those sitting in the wagon verses those pulling the wagon and at least for the time being, there appears to be slightly more of the later than the former.

But thats not Barry's fault.

__________________
Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit. Mahatma Gandhi

It's still too early to determine that. The fact that it's convention time and Willard is still trying to draw in his base is good news for Obama. The independent vote will be minimal this year, they have reported that there's only about 4 % undecided.. so it will come down to the base. Nothing gets people out to the polls better than telling them they can't vote. I would bet all these voter suppression laws are going to backfire...

__________________

Im interested... how do you explain 2010? To what do you attribute that landslide? And how do you explain the landslide recall election in Wisconsin?

As to the so-called GOP base... I've got one word for you. OBAMA

__________________
Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit. Mahatma Gandhi

2010 was a Mid Term.. Democrats traditionally don't turn out for Mid Terms. Not to mention the Tea Party are the ones who swept in on that wave.. knocking out traditional Republicans on the way. The Fizzle for the Tea Party has been on the decline for over a year, the positions are too radical. Wisconsin was easy, people didn't like the idea of a Recall. Exit polls showed that although the Majority voted Not to toss walker out that same Majority would vote for Obama for President...

So called is the correct term. The GOP base is fragmented.. it doesn't help when your own party doesn't approve of you.

__________________

If Dems dont turn out for Mid Terms...how did they win in 2006? You're make stupid excuses here for a colossal loss or near record proportions. And you have your head in the sand if you think the Tea Party has disappeared and lost any clout.

Only a statist liberal would consider the concept of limited and fiscally rational government to be "radical". And this really is more illustrative of just how far out of touch the Democrat Party is with mainstream America.

__________________
Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit. Mahatma Gandhi

I said it was traditional, doesn't mean it's always so. Maybe in 2006 people were sick of a Republican controlled Congress pushing through stupid legislation .

Yeah right, There's still a few whack jobs out there who think we live in the 1700's. The Te Party is dying, and will be a non factor in the upcoming election. They're so well Organized the chosen one Sarah Palin is being left out of the Convention.. I wonder why.

Really? Are you serious? Fiscally Rational would require them to do something that deals with the economy. Without exception the Tea Party radicals ran on the same message in 2010.. Jobs, Jobs, Jobs... All they talked about doing was taking over and cutting the Government spending . They talked about paying down the debt and Fiscal responsibility..... What did we get?

We got Abortion Laws, Anti - Gay Laws, 33 repeals of Obamacare, A few thousand post offices renamed, increased spending, more debt, and a downgrade to the nations credit . Oh, and let's not forget The WORST public rating of Congress in the history of the country.

We have Tea Party People in Congress now that stand up and Proclaim that Democrats are Communists. We have Tea Party Nutt jobs Claiming the President of the U.S. is a Muslim and not American born. We have Tea Party Whackos claiming that a woman who is being raped is incapable of getting Pregnant.

So please don't make me laugh any harder, The Tea Party is a Joke.

__________________

National Polls 46.8 to 45.7 >>>>>>Obama +1.1
Electoral College 221 to 181
Intrade Odds 56.0 to 43.7

source: today's RCP

RealClearPolitics - Election 2012

__________________
218 Days till Christmas

We'll see if you're still laughing in November.

__________________
Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit. Mahatma Gandhi

National Poll are meaningless..................5 states are determining the Presidential outcome

__________________
"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that
they know so much that isn't so.": Ronald Reagan