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Mitt Romney says he wants to talk about the economy in this presidential campaign, including his call to repeal the Dodd-Frank financial regulation law. JPMorgan Chase & Co. (JPM)'s $2 billion trading loss in risky transactions isn't the sort of conversation he had in mind.
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So far, presumptive Republican nominee Romney has said little about the transaction that is roiling Wall Street and Washington, prompting an inquiry by the Federal Reserve, a call for a congressional investigation and a demand by Elizabeth Warren, a Democratic Senate candidate in Massachusetts, that JPMorgan Chief Executive Officer Jamie Dimon resign from the board of the New York Federal Reserve.
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“Any time you have a development that suggests businesses take unnecessary and unwise risks, you give ammunition to Democrats and cause problems for the Republican narrative,” said Stu Rothenberg, editor of the nonpartisan Rothenberg Political Report. “Romney will have to deal with it.”
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Campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul had said in a statement the losses showed “the importance of oversight and transparency in the derivatives market,” and that Romney as president would “push for common-sense regulation that gives regulators tools to do their jobs, and that gives investors more clarity.” she said.
JPMorgan blunder puts Mitt Romney in tough spot - InvestmentNews
Asked for specifics, the campaign later replied with remarks he made last year while campaigning in New Hampshire, when he said he would favor regulating derivatives and imposing different capital requirements on different forms of securities. The campaign also pointed to Romney's 59-point economic plan, in which he writes that “some of the concepts in Dodd-Frank have a place.”
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Yet another dumbass-based attack on Romney. Desperate people jump to desperate tactics. Making this kind of false association is pathetic...
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Ahhh...Eighty degrees to Mitt Romney...

Going to the Rothenburg Political Report?...Really?...THIS GUY??????...

After Carville saying Dems will have control for the next 40 years, this is the second worse prediction in the history of politics...

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Cheerleading has its place, including on a high school or college basketball court. But not when it comes to political analysis.

Over the past couple of weeks, at least three Republicans — House Minority Whip Eric Cantor (Va.), former Speaker Newt Gingrich (Ga.) and campaign consultant Tony Marsh — have raised the possibility of the GOP winning back the House of Representatives next year.

That idea is lunacy and ought to be put to rest immediately.


None of the three actually predicted that Republicans would gain the 40 seats that they need for a majority, but all three held out hope that that’s possible. It isn’t.
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Yet another dumbass-based attack on Romney. Desperate people jump to desperate tactics. Making this kind of false association is pathetic...
Everyone who can multiply is making this association. The association is little or no regulation and some calling for less when these WS boobs are still flucking the golden goose.
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Ahhh...Eighty degrees to Mitt Romney...

Going to the Rothenburg Political Report?...Really?...THIS GUY??????...

After Carville saying Dems will have control for the next 40 years, this is the second worse prediction in the history of politics...

April Madness: Can GOP Win Back the House in 2010?
What you said has nothing to do with the OP.
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Everyone who can multiply is making this association. The association is little or no regulation and some calling for less when these WS boobs are still flucking the golden goose.


What you said has nothing to do with the OP.
Why should teh gov't be involved in this kind of thing at all?? If they are making dumb choices, then they will lose clientel and fail as a busniess and companies that are making smart choices will be picking up thier clients.


You want the entire nation to fall under some kind massive gov't regulatory oversight (with the exception of unions, who get to do whatever they want) that controls every single financial transaction, manufacturing process, etc. that happens. That's what's called a totalitarian state. You should do a little study on what happens in such countries. Little things like poverty, disease, violence, loss of rights, etc. But that's pretty much the comfort zone for most leftists, isn't it?? Keep people poor, make sure that the only medical care tehy get comes from the gov't and if you don't like how things are going, tear up what belongs to the people you don't like. That's the left's way of doing things. Force people to comply and if they don't happily and willingly do so, demonize them at every turn.
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Why should teh gov't be involved in this kind of thing at all?? If they are making dumb choices, then they will lose clientel and fail as a busniess and companies that are making smart choices will be picking up thier clients.
No they won't they didn't as evidenced by Wells Fargo, JP Morgan and every mortgage lender that screwed us.
HOW can you who look like a sane person still be convinced "the market regulates itself"??? It doesn't

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You want the entire nation to fall under some kind massive gov't regulatory oversight (with the exception of unions, who get to do whatever they want) that controls every single financial transaction, manufacturing process, etc. that happens. That's what's called a totalitarian state.
I want anything that remotely touches my money -be that tax dollars, checking account, credit, loans, interest to be regulated by the big old federal government yes I most certainly do.
I do not want banks doling out financial advice or selling insurance either.

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You should do a little study on what happens in such countries.
I have. America prosperity extraordinaire! Until the damned deregulators got to the ear of our VP Bush Sr and mucked up the works again like their forefathers during the 1920s.
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Little things like poverty, disease, violence, loss of rights, etc. But that's pretty much the comfort zone for most leftists, isn't it?? Keep people poor, make sure that the only medical care tehy get comes from the gov't and if you don't like how things are going, tear up what belongs to the people you don't like. That's the left's way of doing things. Force people to comply and if they don't happily and willingly do so, demonize them at every turn.
Those are the things going on in Greece right now. The home of austerity. hello
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While some people want to regulate the hell out of everything and cry how the sky is falling, let me remind you of FACTS...

This $2 billion loss doesn't even come CLOSE to putting JPMorgan in any danger...

Do you what their NET income was last year?...

19 BILLION...

And their revenue for the first quarter of this year?...5.4 billion...

In other words...A company that earned over $24 billion in the last five quarters just lost $2 billion on a bad risk...

Sucks?...Sure...If I were running that company I'd make sure heads roll, too...

But to make this an example of the downfall of banking and how the government needs to swoon in and inject their grubby little hands into it (even more than it already has) is paranoia at its finest and a plea to cure dandruff by decapitation...

May I ALSO remind you that this was a hedge bet...The fact that JPMorgan lost $2 billion means that entities that bet against JPMorgan WON $2 billion...The amount in the pot for this risk didn't decrease AT ALL...It just changed hands...

Hedge betting works like a poker game...If five people show up with $20 in chips, that $100 will not increase or decrease...No matter what happens, at the end of the night, that same $100 will leave...Some with more; some with less...But the amount will remain the same...

So, unlike the housing crises, the INDUSTRY didn't lose a dime...What JPMorgan lost just went somewhere else...
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While some people want to regulate the hell out of everything and cry how the sky is falling, let me remind you of FACTS...

This $2 billion loss doesn't even come CLOSE to putting JPMorgan in any danger...

Do you what their NET income was last year?...

19 BILLION...

And their revenue for the first quarter of this year?...5.4 billion...

In other words...A company that earned over $24 billion in the last five quarters just lost $2 billion on a bad risk...

Sucks?...Sure...If I were running that company I'd make sure heads roll, too...

But to make this an example of the downfall of banking and how the government needs to swoon in and inject their grubby little hands into it (even more than it already has) is paranoia at its finest and a plea to cure dandruff by decapitation...

May I ALSO remind you that this was a hedge bet...The fact that JPMorgan lost $2 billion means that entities that bet against JPMorgan WON $2 billion...The amount in the pot for this risk didn't decrease AT ALL...It just changed hands...

Hedge betting works like a poker game...If five people show up with $20 in chips, that $100 will not increase or decrease...No matter what happens, at the end of the night, that same $100 will leave...Some with more; some with less...But the amount will remain the same...

So, unlike the housing crises, the INDUSTRY didn't lose a dime...What JPMorgan lost just went somewhere else...
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While some people want to regulate the hell out of everything and cry how the sky is falling, let me remind you of FACTS...

This $2 billion loss doesn't even come CLOSE to putting JPMorgan in any danger...

Do you what their NET income was last year?...

19 BILLION...

And their revenue for the first quarter of this year?...5.4 billion...

In other words...A company that earned over $24 billion in the last five quarters just lost $2 billion on a bad risk...

Sucks?...Sure...If I were running that company I'd make sure heads roll, too...

But to make this an example of the downfall of banking and how the government needs to swoon in and inject their grubby little hands into it (even more than it already has) is paranoia at its finest and a plea to cure dandruff by decapitation...

May I ALSO remind you that this was a hedge bet...The fact that JPMorgan lost $2 billion means that entities that bet against JPMorgan WON $2 billion...The amount in the pot for this risk didn't decrease AT ALL...It just changed hands...

Hedge betting works like a poker game...If five people show up with $20 in chips, that $100 will not increase or decrease...No matter what happens, at the end of the night, that same $100 will leave...Some with more; some with less...But the amount will remain the same...

So, unlike the housing crises, the INDUSTRY didn't lose a dime...What JPMorgan lost just went somewhere else...
Speculation should be allowed but not backed by tax payers. Morgan can afford the 2 bil; we can't.
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JPMorgan Chase can be considered a systemically dangerous institution, which means that it is "too big to fail" because the government fears that its collapse would cause a global financial crisis.

It is simply irrational to allow such an institution to exist, especially when it can easily incur a $2 billion trading loss.
Why JPMorgan gets away with bad bets - CNN
Banks are more efficient when shrunk to the point that they can no longer endanger the world economy. But because JPMorgan and similar banks are the leading contributors to Democrats and Republicans, neither political party has the courage to order them to reform.
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