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Old 05-07-2012, 02:28 PM
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I wouldn't bet on that, I think NM is a sleeper for the Red. Dems seem to be taking NM for granted and Reps are making strides. Add that to the growing numbers of people disgruntled by insecure borders and we could very well see NM go Red.
When was the last time you were in any populated area of the state? It's breaking along traditional lines. It's always close. But, a favorite son, Gary Johnson, is running as a Libertarian. He will be taking votes away from Romney.

It's going to be blue again.
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When was the last time you were in any populated area of the state? It's breaking along traditional lines. It's always close. But, a favorite son, Gary Johnson, is running as a Libertarian. He will be taking votes away from Romney.

It's going to be blue again.
That does put a wrench in the Romney machine in NM. Never even thought of Gov. Johnson until you mentioned that, that is an interesting wild card. Even if he doesn't have a major influence on the outcome, New Mexico has been drifting more and more blue n recent years and I don't see how President Obama doesn't take it for a second time.
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That does put a wrench in the Romney machine in NM. Never even thought of Gov. Johnson until you mentioned that, that is an interesting wild card. Even if he doesn't have a major influence on the outcome, New Mexico has been drifting more and more blue n recent years and I don't see how President Obama doesn't take it for a second time.
Yeah, I think the Johnson candidacy is totally why NM is going to be blue again. If it weren't for that, there might be more of a race.
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That does put a wrench in the Romney machine in NM.
Yeah, I think the Johnson candidacy is totally why NM is going to be blue again. If it weren't for that, there might be more of a race.
It's only 5 electoral votes and Obama won the state in 2008 by 16%...

I wouldn't devote any money there if I were Romney in the first place...

When their neighbor (McCain from Arizona) only got 42%, I doubt a Northeast Republican would have much play there...
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It's only 5 electoral votes and Obama won the state in 2008 by 16%...

I wouldn't devote any money there if I were Romney in the first place...

When their neighbor (McCain from Arizona) only got 42%, I doubt a Northeast Republican would have much play there...
Well the fact that it's only 5 electoral votes has little to do with it considering how close elections tend to be. And New Mexico is generally purple. So there is a possibility of taking NM, but it would be so much time and money that it's not really worth it considering the Johnson factor.

I would say that spending money is Arizona isn't for the best either. I mean some, but Arizona, at the end of the day, is going red. I mean state politics are red so the odds that it could go blue is much much lower than other places.

They should be spending their money in Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio.
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Well the fact that it's only 5 electoral votes has little to do with it considering how close elections tend to be. And New Mexico is generally purple. So there is a possibility of taking NM, but it would be so much time and money that it's not really worth it considering the Johnson factor.
That' where I'm at...

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I would say that spending money is Arizona isn't for the best either. I mean some, but Arizona, at the end of the day, is going red. I mean state politics are red so the odds that it could go blue is much much lower than other places.
I'd have to more about Obama's chances of taking it...

SOME money might be needed to make sure it doesn't get lost...

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They should be spending their money in Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, Pennsylvania, and Ohio.
Ha!...They're my top 5 spots, too (PA and FL especially)...
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I think Indiana was a total fluke, an anomaly in the last election and it'll flip to Romney.

Arizona is a red state, it'll be somewhat competitive given the circumstances and demographics, but I see Romney keeping it by at least 5 points. It won't be a blowout, but a win by a decent margin for Willard. But if I were Obama, I'd put some cash in there.

North Carolina was won by Obama by a hair margin, and unless the economy does a more marked improvement I think it'll go red this time around. It's still competitive, and a lot of money will be spent by both sides on this state, but I believe Romney will pull it off but it will be close.

Missouri went for McCain by a hair margin, like with the President and NC. Obama could win it, but it'd take same damn good campaigning, economic news, and luck. Not impossible, but not easy to fathom MO going blue given the demographics and the last election's results. I'm siding with Mitt for now.

Florida is a tough cookie, I can't say why it'll go red too IMO, just a gut feeling thus far and is the weakest of my Romney win projections.

Some people are murmuring about Michigan, I say "HA! F-ck no! lol". Sure, there's the home state advantage, but then there's the whole "letting the American auto industry die whilst deep in the throes of an already severe recession" thing Willard has around his neck, we won't forget. Obama is taking MI without question, the state has benefited greatly from the policies of the President and Gov. Snyder. (Rick's an R, but he's doing a good job.) Our economy is growing pretty damn well. We're adding jobs all the time, and unemployment has dropped from its recession-high of 14%, to 8.5% Still high, but getting better and moving along on the right track.

Ohio is likely to stay blue; again, Romney's comments on the auto rescue are just so damning to himself. Plus, the economy there is doing better. Unemployment in OH is actually below the national average, which is usually never the case.

Obama won Virginia by a fairly decent margin in 2008, which was kind of surprising to me. It'll take a good amount of campaigning, a good amount of work no doubt. But a bit of a push of enthusiasm with the demographics of the state will mostly likely keep VA blue.

Barack won Iowa solidly, it'll take a good series of missteps for him to lose it to Romney which I don't see happening given the direction of the economy and the massive presence the Obama campaign has in the state.

Pennsylvania is the swing state phantasm. Republicans have fought tooth-and-nail for it in the last few Presidential elections and have flopped. They poured a lot in '08 and just got trounced. George HW Bush in 1988, Democrats afterward and ever since. John Kerry won it FFS lol. That should be the standard: If Kerry won the state, it'll be really hard to see the GOP take it red. It's a total c-cktease.

New Hampshire; big Obama win, Kerry victory. But worth a shot for the Romney camp, better than PA at least.

Obama won Nevada and Colorado by comfortable leads, and the demographics are such that while he might not win by the same margins, I think the odds are good that he'll triumph again. Nevada's economy though, makes keeping it blue more difficult than CO.
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Here's the latest tracking poll...........................

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The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows Mitt Romney earning 49% of the vote and President Obama attracting 44% support. Three percent (3%) would vote for a third party candidate, while another three percent (3%) are undecided.
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It was like that a couple of weeks ago, and then it reversed, and now it reverted. Interesting how that fluxes around.
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It was like that a couple of weeks ago, and then it reversed, and now it reverted. Interesting how that fluxes around.
Right, so far out at the moment that it's not likely to mean anything for more than 30 seconds.
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