Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11

Here'a little video showing the Pastor, who is part of Obama's campaign, blatantly politicking from the pulpit spewing race-bait commentary...

Yahoo!

Compare this to what Geraldine Ferrero said...

Now you know why Michelle Obama hasn't been proud of America in her adultlife...

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That sounds like what falwell said about 9-11. This is all interesting but what is Obamas positition on why 9-11 happened? I think his position is a lot like mine or yours.

Actually, Obama's pastor ISN'T a part of his campaign. Because of his pastor's relationship with Farrakhan, Obama doesn't want his pastor on his campaign organization as well as doesn't accept any campaign funds from his pastor or church because he doesn't support Farrakhan's radical ideals. And at the beggining of his campaign, Obama made it clear of his stance and non-willingness to accept anything from Wright, which Wright agreed because of the harm it would do to Obama's campaign.

So anything his pastor does say in support of Obama from the pulpit, is the pastor's own doing and isn't condoned/asked for by Obama's campaign organizers or himself. In otherwords, Wright's acting/doing just as any ordinary citizen does in support of a canidate they want others and themselves to vote for, but not speaking for Obama's organization nor providing finacial aid to Obama's organization.

Saying or implying otherwise is false gossip mongering when it's been made perfectly clear from the get-go that Wright doesn't speak or represent Obama's campaign in any way, shape, or form.

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The cute part is, Wright is expressing his opinion of the events that many Americans unfortunately share about 9-11...But his opinions about it doesn't represent Obama, nor is representive of Obama's campaign.

Wright is Obama's pastor, nothing more. Wright isn't a part of Obama's campaign, so his opinions as to what is/isn't relative in regards to any topic holds no value whatsoever as to anything in regards to Obama. And to try and weigh Obama's validity by what someone else's opinion is is misleading at best.

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Oh really?...

Wright's committee

Will your defense of Obama now go from "he's not part of the campaign" directly to "OK, he IS part of the campaign, but it's a small one so I'll pretend it doesn't matter."?...

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And let's take this a little further...

This pastor MARRIED Obama, christianed his two children, and has been part of his 'flock" for 20+ years...He even has a write-up in Obama's book...

Are you anyone going to tell me that Obama's had his ears shut to this "aspect" of the pastors rhetoric the whole time?...

Would YOU go to a church for 20+ years where the pastor does this?...

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That still doesn't make Wright 'a part of Obama's campaign' redd. He's Obama's pastor, nothing more. They are friends sure...But being a friend doesn't mean that friends always have to agree on something. And in this case, you have no clue what Obama thinks in regards to 9-11, whether that opinion is shared/different from Wright's. Instead, your playing assumption based on nothing more then wishful thinking on your part.

Your claim is he's a 'part of Obama's campaign'...And as such, you are misinforming others as well as yourself, when you are taking the pastorial/church member relationship further then it is. Wright's marrying the Obamas doesn't make him 'part of Obama's organization'...Wright's being his pastor for 20+ years doesn't make him 'part of Obama's organization'...His being wrote about in Obama's book doesn't make him 'part of Obama's organization'. Inspiring Obama to become Christian (which is what Obama's references in regards to Wright were about), doesn't make him 'part of Obama's campaign'...

Tell you what...I have a number of KKK members in my family. And when I'm around them, that means that I not only hear them talk discrimination, but that I'm also aware of the fact that they speak that bull/believe in that bull even when I'm not around...

But the fact that they hold those opinions, doesn't make me KKK by association. In the same light, the fact that they hold those opinions that differ from my own, doesn't mean I stop associating with them or find other aspects about them to praise/hold close...And despite the fact that they are well aware of the fact that I don't hold to their predjudices, they still speak highly of me and recommend my assistance to others.

They don't try to sell me their bull, and I don't hold thier stupidity against them and laugh their predjudices off as what it is...Uninformed intolerance.

Same with the situation regarding Obama and Wright...They do disagree on different priniciples/opinions. But despite that, they remain friends, pastor/member of congregation.

That still doesn't mean that Obama holds those opinions himself because of association. Nor does that make Wright is a part of his campaign when Wright isn't and Obama doesn't want him on his campaign because of those differing views they have...

You can harp and whine all you want otherwise, but in the end you are being misleading about the made-up influence you think Wright has in regards to Obama or his campaign. When simply put, Wright doesn't represent Obama or his campaign, nor is he a part of the campaign.

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But unlike your relatives, Obama had NO family ties to the pastor...

You say when your relatives are around, you hear their discrimination...

But do you do this when you HAVE to be around them or do you ACTIVELY go out of your way to meet with them and hear their rhetoric?...

I find you smart enough to believe it would be the former...

In fact, I'm willing to bet that you're smart enough to say that if they WEREN'T your relatives and just someone you've met, you would've distanced yourself from them the very first instance of their discrimination arose...

But that's not the situation in Obama's case...He MADE the connection with the pastor through time and not because he was forced to be around the pastor by blood...

You did not CHOOSE your relatives...Obama CHOSE his pastor...

And you are correct that things like marrying Obama or christening his chilldren or using the pastor's words for the title of his book doesn't MAKE him part of his campaign, but what it DOES do is show that Obama is willing to associate with someone who intentionally race-baits and denounces America...

...Not ONLY associate, but speak of him with high praise...

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Ah redd? That isn't a part of Obama's Presidential campaign...It's a CHRISTIAN ORGANIZATION for African American Religious and LGBT Leaders. Or to be more specific...It's a bunch of little groups, made up of several church groups and LGBT groups, that have joined up together to support Obama.

The group wasn't started by Obama, but by the democratic local churches and LGBT leaders nationwide, who are supporting Obama for president. They also get alot of press and support for Obama by not only the Christian sect, but the African American and LGBT communities. And they have linked up to Obama's campaign in order to get the message out to other Christian, African American, and LGBT organizations to join the Obama support team.

And yes, Wright is a member....But a member ONLY. He isn't on the board at all...Which means, he's a voter/supporter, but not a part of Obama's campaign just as this organization isn't Obama's either...Just supporters of Obama. Guess next, you'll be saying that because Wright is a member of the Democrat voter registration, that somehow means he's 'part of Obama's campaign'?

Whether you like it or not, Wright does have the right to join any group he wants to that supports his canidate...A church organization he joined that eventually also decided to become part of an Obama support group and then linked up with other groups that shared the same goa...As such, he also has the right to support Obama as well. But unless he's in an active role in that group as in donating money or holding a 'boss' position within the organization, and sorry but membership only doesn't constitute 'active role', then you'd have something to claim...But Wright isn't in any active role of that organization, but a simple member.

Not unless now you're suggesting that he should be denied the right to support whatever canidate he wishes, that he has to unjoin a group that starts supporting Obama, or that Obama should be telling his 'sorry Wright old man, but you need to become republican, change religion, or ask church members to vote for Hillary'...

Here is the list of who runs the organization...Please note that Wright holds no active role in that organization's staff.

Barack Obama : : Change We Can Believe In | Alex Okrent's Blog: Joint Letter from the African American Religious and LGBT Leadership Teams


I'll also include the letter that clearly states that they are NOT represenatives of Obama's campaign, but are represenatives of Obama SUPPORTERS...And yes, it's from Obama's campaign site, because it was news generated ABOUT Obama by this group and actually works in his favor if people visiting his site see other groups supporting him...And groups he actually does support as he supports the Christian African American as well is a supporter of LGBT rights.

Barack Obama | Change We Can Believe In |

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Read Politico's statement again...

What you are talking about is a different organization entirely...

Believe it or not, people CAN be on two different groups at the same time...

Read your first sentence from your source...

In other words, you're showing me something that is NOT an official part of Obama's campaign...just supporters and leaders in the community...

Just as if a union sent out a letter saying they were supporting Obama and Obama put it up on his website...That doesn't make the union part of his campaign...

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"You get the respect that you give" - cnredd