Obama's Pastor: God Damn America, U.S. to Blame for 9/11 - Page 5

AlicornsPrayer · #41 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 12:24 AM

Simply put redd...

Your smear buddies story then with the fake page was 'look what's on their home page'...

Now your smear buddies story with the same fake page is 'look what's not on their home page'...

Same 'page' used in February to say Obama's church was racist...Same 'page' used now in March to say Obama's church is covering/cleaning up their site.

Yet, that 'page' you are toting about supposedly having exsisted? It never exsisted in February. And it never exsisted in March.

cnredd · #42 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by AlicornsPrayer

No, my post links go back to FEBRUARY...Which is before MARCH. The posts I've linked up to, I made FEBRUARY 5th...A month and a half BEFORE both your supposed photoshop pics were taken.

The archive photos are submitted web photos sent in by the very people that tried it in FEBRUARY, WHICH IS BEFORE MARCH, about information that was supposedly on but wasn't really on the 'about us' page.

The 'new' photo from MARCH showing the content missing, is the same page that was copied/pasted from then the 12 BSV added to it, that was viewable in FEBRUARY. A month and a half prior and that page that was copied/pasted didn't have the supposedly 'missing content' then when you viewed the site itself then either...Because your picture saying that the content was there in MARCH, wasn't on the page in FEBRUARY at all. It was a copy/paste/photoshopped story then. It's still a copy/paste/photoshopped story today...Only difference is, now they've got a different story attached to the same fake page they dreamed up in February and passing off as 'new' in March.

You do know your months, right? January, February, MARCH?

In February, there was no '12 Black Value System' mention on the 'about us' page...It was on a seperate page completely then, just as it's still on the same seperate page today. It wasn't removed in March, when your supposed web page pics were taken, cause it wasn't on the 'about us' page in February already...

You can't remove something from a page that was never there to begin with...And February comes BEFORE March, not the other way around.

Ummm...

You do know this is 2008 right?...

What I've shown is how it was changed during March 2007...NOT 2008...

March follows February with the EXCEPTION of if you're talking about 11 months beforehand...

AlicornsPrayer · #43 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Ummm...

You do know this is 2008 right?...

What I've shown is how it was changed during March 2007...NOT 2008...

March follows February with the EXCEPTION of if you're talking about 11 months beforehand...

ROTFLMAOL!!! Then if that was the case? Then that would make YOUR sources story even more hookey...Cause if the page was changed in early 2007, prior to even the first scandle about his church being racist and they were using that page? When that page didn't even exsist at the time of that first scandle of this year...

The story out now still is a lie.

Because his church at both times this year, never had the supposed page that was 'spewing 12 point Black Value System racist hate on their 'about page' to begin with...

That still makes your story going on NOW a lie and falsehood. Because the church still couldn't have changed a portion of a page that hadn't been there prior to early-mid 2007?

Because the supposedly pages that didnt' exsist in February, couldn't have been removed this month either. And trying to say that the portion of the page was removed AFTER this latest story about the Wright videos IS STILL A LIE.

Is that so hard for you to understand redd? The portion your story claims, that was removed after THIS MARCH INCIDENT of Wright's video releases, NEVER EXSISTED TO BEGIN WITH. Because that portion on the 'about us' page never exsisted to begin with at the time THIS MONTH, that the media released the story about Wright's videos.

You still can't remove something that wasn't there to begin with, prior to the claims now being made about the current happenings about Wright or his church.

All you did right there with your response was PROVE my point, not disprove it. Cause I'm perfectly willing to agree that at some time of that church's history, they might have had those two combined at some time...But at the time the stories about Obama's church and Wright's videos were put out to the public? They were not combined so saying that they've JUST NOW BEEN REMOVED BECAUSE OF CURRENT MEDIA STORIES is a flat out lie.

And especially when the portions weren't fully removed, but just put onto seperate pages early-mid 2007 then to more fully givev them credit...Not cover up or hide?

So your story's claims still is false...But on three points, not just the one point.

1. The pages were changed prior to any scandal about the church or Wright
2. The contents weren't removed from the site, but put into seperate articles.
3. The contents are still there, but on seperate pages, so the church isn't covering up a thing.

I've got my own web pages...I move things around and add to it, shift pages to be more easily accessed, check links to see if active, etc...When I do that, I'm not covering up anything because some anti-Pagan hater e-mails/signs my guestbook...But I'm moving points or items that I find important to me to better highlight the points those types find 'offensive'.

So sometime, last year, the church re-did their pages in order to better highlight the points relevant to their goals/beliefs...They not only kept the same points, but even enlarged on what those points were...By seperating them into two distinct discussions to allow a more indepth discussion of what it ment to their community/church...

But now almost a year later AFTER those pages were changed, the anti-Obama people are just now getting around to releasing stories about pages that didn't exsist at the time they released the story...As well as now claiming that said pages were JUST CHANGED to cover up what was not on the pages to begin with since last year?

ROTFLMAOL!

So redd, how is it that at the time this year BOTH of the stories about the church broke out, why is it they weren't able to tell you that the portions they were adding TO THIS YEARS claims weren't there but were about last year's pages?

Because at the time both stories came out, any fool could go straight to the church site and see that the portions claimed were not there to begin with. The page didn't exsist when 'Obama's church is racist' story began...The page didn't exsist when 'Wright's racist videos' story began.

And the page deffinately didn't exsist either when the 'Obama's church changed it's about us page because of Wright video scandal' just started.

So are you ready yet to admit you were duped? Or are you going to try to still applied post-scandal page changes should still be applied to the current story as relevant?

Cause I'd like to know how someone can cover-up a current scandal months before they're accused of covering up the current scandal? And how having the material still on their site and easily accessable cause they want you to view it, is 'covering up and removing' said material from their site.

cnredd · #44 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by AlicornsPrayer

ROTFLMAOL!!! Then if that was the case? Then that would make YOUR sources story even more hookey...Cause if the page was changed in early 2007, prior to even the first scandle about his church being racist and they were using that page? When that page didn't even exsist at the time of that first scandle of this year...

The story out now still is a lie.

Because his church at both times this year, never had the supposed page that was 'spewing 12 point Black Value System racist hate on their 'about page' to begin with...

That still makes your story going on NOW a lie and falsehood. Because the church still couldn't have changed a portion of a page that hadn't been there prior to early-mid 2007?

Because the supposedly pages that didnt' exsist in February, couldn't have been removed this month either. And trying to say that the portion of the page was removed AFTER this latest story about the Wright videos IS STILL A LIE.

Umm...I hate to tell you, but the Trinity United Church STILL has the Black Value System on their website...Just not on their "About Us" page anymore...

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Originally Posted by AlicornsPrayer

Is that so hard for you to understand redd? The portion your story claims, that was removed after THIS MARCH INCIDENT of Wright's video releases, NEVER EXSISTED TO BEGIN WITH. Because that portion on the 'about us' page never exsisted to begin with at the time THIS MONTH, that the media released the story about Wright's videos.

You still can't remove something that wasn't there to begin with, prior to the claims now being made about the current happenings about Wright or his church.

Here is the link to my original post about this again...

Please go over it again and tell me WHERE, as you say, "The portion your story claims, that was removed after THIS MARCH INCIDENT of Wright's video releases"...

Oh yeah...You won't be able to because I've made no claim...

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Originally Posted by AlicornsPrayer

All you did right there with your response was PROVE my point, not disprove it. Cause I'm perfectly willing to agree that at some time of that church's history, they might have had those two combined at some time...But at the time the stories about Obama's church and Wright's videos were put out to the public? They were not combined so saying that they've JUST NOW BEEN REMOVED BECAUSE OF CURRENT MEDIA STORIES is a flat out lie.

And especially when the portions weren't fully removed, but just put onto seperate pages early-mid 2007 then to more fully givev them credit...Not cover up or hide?

So your story's claims still is false...But on three points, not just the one point.

1. The pages were changed prior to any scandal about the church or Wright
2. The contents weren't removed from the site, but put into seperate articles.
3. The contents are still there, but on seperate pages, so the church isn't covering up a thing.

I've got my own web pages...I move things around and add to it, shift pages to be more easily accessed, check links to see if active, etc...When I do that, I'm not covering up anything because some anti-Pagan hater e-mails/signs my guestbook...But I'm moving points or items that I find important to me to better highlight the points those types find 'offensive'.

So sometime, last year, the church re-did their pages in order to better highlight the points relevant to their goals/beliefs...They not only kept the same points, but even enlarged on what those points were...By seperating them into two distinct discussions to allow a more indepth discussion of what it ment to their community/church...

But now almost a year later AFTER those pages were changed, the anti-Obama people are just now getting around to releasing stories about pages that didn't exsist at the time they released the story...As well as now claiming that said pages were JUST CHANGED to cover up what was not on the pages to begin with since last year?

ROTFLMAOL!

So redd, how is it that at the time this year BOTH of the stories about the church broke out, why is it they weren't able to tell you that the portions they were adding TO THIS YEARS claims weren't there but were about last year's pages?

Because at the time both stories came out, any fool could go straight to the church site and see that the portions claimed were not there to begin with. The page didn't exsist when 'Obama's church is racist' story began...The page didn't exsist when 'Wright's racist videos' story began.

And the page deffinately didn't exsist either when the 'Obama's church changed it's about us page because of Wright video scandal' just started.

So are you ready yet to admit you were duped? Or are you going to try to still applied post-scandal page changes should still be applied to the current story as relevant?

Cause I'd like to know how someone can cover-up a current scandal months before they're accused of covering up the current scandal? And how having the material still on their site and easily accessable cause they want you to view it, is 'covering up and removing' said material from their site.

here is EXACTLY how they can "cover up a current scandal months before they're accused of covering up the current scandal"...

It's NOT current...It just exploded in the last week...But there were a few who knew about Wright even while Obama announced his presidency...

PLEASE read this article from...Yup...March, 2007...The very same month the Black Value System conveniently dissappeared...

Disinvitation by Obama Is Criticized

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CHICAGO, March 5 — The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., senior pastor of the popular Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago and spiritual mentor to Senator Barack Obama, thought he knew what he would be doing on Feb. 10, the day of Senator Obama’s presidential announcement.

After all, back in January, Mr. Obama had asked Mr. Wright if he would begin the event by delivering a public invocation.

But Mr. Wright said Mr. Obama called him the night before the Feb. 10 announcement and rescinded the invitation to give the invocation.

“Fifteen minutes before Shabbos I get a call from Barack,” Mr. Wright said in an interview on Monday, recalling that he was at an interfaith conference at the time. “One of his members had talked him into uninviting me,” Mr. Wright said, referring to Mr. Obama’s campaign advisers.

Some black leaders are questioning Mr. Obama’s decision to distance his campaign from Mr. Wright because of the campaign’s apparent fear of criticism over Mr. Wright’s teachings, which some say are overly Afrocentric to the point of excluding whites.

Bill Burton, a spokesman for the Obama campaign, said the campaign disinvited Mr. Wright because it did not want the church to face negative attention. Mr. Wright did however, attend the announcement and prayed with Mr. Obama beforehand.

“Senator Obama is proud of his pastor and his church, but because of the type of attention it was receiving on blogs and conservative talk shows, he decided to avoid having statements and beliefs being used out of context and forcing the entire church to defend itself,” Mr. Burton said.

Instead, Mr. Obama asked Mr. Wright’s successor as pastor at Trinity, the Rev. Otis Moss III, to speak. Mr. Moss declined.

In recent weeks, word of Mr. Obama’s treatment of Mr. Wright has reached black leaders like the Rev. Al Sharpton and given them pause.

“I have not discussed this with Senator Obama in detail, but I can see why callers of mine and other clergymen would be concerned, because the issue is standing by your own pastor,” Mr. Sharpton said.

AlicornsPrayer · #45 (**permalink**) 03-18-2008, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Umm...I hate to tell you, but the Trinity United Church STILL has the Black Value System on their website...Just not on their "About Us" page anymore...

I've said that REPEATEDLY already redd. Trying to say I haven't said that now, is being misleading when I've stated time and time again that THE PORTION BEING TALKED ABOUT IS STILL ON THE SITE ON A SEPERATE PAGE.

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Here is the link to my original post about this again...

Please go over it again and tell me WHERE, as you say, "The portion your story claims, that was removed after THIS MARCH INCIDENT of Wright's video releases"...

Fine, but your post does IMPLY that why it was removed, because of this thread talking about Wright's video...

You presented the web shot in order to show that the church itself is 'covering up/cleaning up' their site over this latest story about Wright. You can try to pretend now, that that wasn't your intention, but then you'd be showing just how misleading you're willing to go in order to disassociate your original reason for presenting it as 'see, they know they're wrong and trying to cover up'.

Otherwise, what was/wasn't on the page a year ago doesn't have anything to do with Wright's videos, his church's responses to that situation today, or what is/isn't on their page today either.

You are engaging in a sort of 'guilty by association' yourself. What they removed last year and moved to another page last year, has nothing to do with what happened THIS YEAR.

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Originally Posted by cnredd

Oh yeah...You won't be able to because I've made no claim...

here is EXACTLY how they can "cover up a current scandal months before they're accused of covering up the current scandal"...

It's NOT current...It just exploded in the last week...But there were a few who knew about Wright even while Obama announced his presidency...

PLEASE read this article from...Yup...March, 2007...The very same month the Black Value System conveniently dissappeared...

Disinvitation by Obama Is Criticized

Your whole post originally has a story that consists of 'this was the home page' with no date of occuring, with then another picture of 'this is what their page looks like now'. Again with no date attached to it. Simple links to two pictures of a webpage...

The story you are linked up to, still has nothing to do with what the story today is about why the pages were supposedly changed. Obama disassociating himself from Wright's campaign support has nothing to do with what is currently the charge about this week's story about the church supposedly changing their pages.

An implied meaning that this was what it looked like yesterday, looks like today now. THEN you add later 'well, they were taken last year in March of 2007' but they did take it off. You don't even mention till now, that the the portion removed is still on the site...You go on about it not being on the home page since last year?

Who's being deceptive and misleading with only spoonfeding as little actual information to what you didn't say in your original post using it?

Not me redd...Everytime I've shot down the fact that it has nothing to do with today's events, you then try to backtrack and cover up your own original insinuations of using said pictures? Right on the coat tails of the media release by other 'new's claiming that the church JUST CHANGED THE PAGE THIS WEEK AND REMOVED THE POINTS FROM THE SITE...

Clearly, cause you really didn't have the whole story then, you did as me and checked it out...And the more you find out about it, the more you use your new information to try and discredit my facts to further mislead others with unimportant information.

A picture isn't a news story redd...But the story that is being used today, your pictures would go towards crediting the story of 'they changed their about us page this week' IF your pictures actually were from this week. Which even YOU agree wasn't there this week or any time this year.

You can't cover up something if what is supposedly being covered up is still on the site. Being moved isn't being covered up. It's still there, it's still accessable, so it didn't go anywhere off the site.

LOL! Then if it was soooo important then, it would have been mentioned then. Plus your story would also be saying when the change was made, not being bantered around the net by news stories claiming it was just changed. And the story is from THIS YEAR...Only being presented right now all over the net as CURRENT NEWS ABOUT THE CHURCH CLEANING UP THEIR SITE CAUSE OF THE RUCKOUS OF THE NEWS ABOUT THE VIDEOS.

The supposed complete removal of it has been repeatedly connected to this years going-ons. And that's what your response to including it in this thread was intended to accomplish as well.

Stop trying to be deceptive about that fact. YOU may think it's applicable to what happened this previous week, but it isn't applicable at all about anything...The only way it would be relevant is IF your story had stated that the portion being discussed, had been MOVED...Not removed completly in order to hide facts about the church's implied racist ideas.

There can't be a charade if the material supposedly removed is still part of the site and viewable at any time you want to read it...

You disappoint me greatly redd...First you accuse me of not knowing the points are still on the site when I've been the one to repeatedly state they are on the site...As well as you try to convince me and others that there was a coverup and try to twist what you did say and imply into something else when we're not duped by your first insinuations...

Shame on you brother. For not being gracious enough to admit that the implied meaning behind presenting it in the first place was your own error and mistake of doing...Claim 'well, the source deceived me too' if that eases your ego...But to continue to insinuate that the church is covering up something, by REMOVING something from their site that they didn't?

That makes you as much of a liar as to what your article was trying to imply as well...Because your article makes no mention the contents were seperated to go into more detail...Your source insinuates it was COMPLETELY removed to disallow readers from viewing the points at all...

Your source has been discredited...So at least have the dignity and self-respect to admit that to yourself and not to try and foster the lie that source was tying to put forth. Otherwise, your crediablity is as lacking as their's is.

saltwn · #46 (**permalink**) 03-20-2008, 01:52 PM

I've attended rallies/meetings at black churches in Texas. For the purpose of action and awareness concerning police brutality. Some of the literature that is passed around before they are aware white people are present is pretty inflammatory. It's kind of like how you act in your own home as compared to out in public. I think there is still a shuffle and jive play put on for white folk. Not every black person is the same. Not every white person either. But some organizations (and many of these are within churches) are biased.
Having said that, I'd like to point out there are a whole lot of white folk who claim not to be prejudiced, but when they are around only whites it's a whole different story. I'd bet money Imus and Lott are not among them.
But the people who cast the accusing finger should probably sweep around their own door!

saltwn · #47 (**permalink**) 03-20-2008, 07:49 PM

Huckabee Defends Obama … and the Rev. Wright
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And he made the point, and I think it's a valid one, that you can't hold the candidate responsible for everything that people around him may say or do. You just can't -- whether it's me, whether it's Obama, anybody else. But he did distance himself from the very vitriolic statements.

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Now, the second story. It's interesting to me that there are some people on the left that are having to be very uncomfortable with what Louis Wright said, when they all were all over a Jerry Falwell or anyone on the right who said things that they found very awkward and uncomfortable years ago. Many times those were statements lifted out of the context of a larger sermon.

Sermons, after all, are rarely written word-for-word by pastors like Rev. Wright, who are delivering them extemporaneously, and caught up in the emotion of the moment. There are things that sometimes get said, that if you put them on paper and looked at them in print, you'd say, "Well, I didn't mean to say it quite like that."

A sane voice, that Huckabee guy.

AlicornsPrayer · #48 (**permalink**) 03-22-2008, 01:27 AM

Interesting developements about the story about the Obama's attendence of supposed 'God D**n America' sermon...

Kristol Admits Another Error -- This One on Obama Smear

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Now Kristol has admitted his error, posting at the end of his column on the Times' site: "In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama campaign has provided information showing that Sen. Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error."

Kristol's column has been plagued by errors in its short run so far.

For his part, Kessler at Newsmax admits today that his source now has fallen away from his specific July 22 claim, saying, "he attended several services at Senator Obama's church during the month of July, including July 22," and can no longer be certain of which date he has written about.

Also seems that Roland Martin, associated to CNN's 360 Degrees has some interesting information about the clips from the videos released as well...
Anderson Cooper 360: Blog Archive - The full story behind Rev. Jeremiah Wright’s 9/11 sermon « - Blogs from CNN.com

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As this whole sordid episode regarding the sermons of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright has played out over the last week, I wanted to understand what he ACTUALLY said in this speech. I’ve been saying all week on CNN that context is important, and I just wanted to know what the heck is going on.

I have now actually listened to the sermon Rev. Wright gave after September 11 titled, “The Day of Jerusalem’s Fall.” It was delivered on Sept. 16, 2001.

One of the most controversial statements in this sermon was when he mentioned “chickens coming home to roost.” He was actually quoting Edward Peck, former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq and deputy director of President Reagan’s terrorism task force, who was speaking on FOX News. That’s what he told the congregation.

He was quoting Peck as saying that America’s foreign policy has put the nation in peril:

“I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday did anybody else see or hear him? He was on FOX News, this is a white man, and he was upsetting the FOX News commentators to no end, he pointed out, a white man, an ambassador, he pointed out that what Malcolm X said when he was silenced by Elijah Mohammad was in fact true, he said Americas chickens, are coming home to roost.”

“We took this country by terror away from the Sioux, the Apache, Arikara, the Comanche, the Arapaho, the Navajo. Terrorism.

“We took Africans away from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.

“We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.

“We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenage and toddlers, pregnant mothers and hard working fathers.

“We bombed Qaddafi’s home, and killed his child. Blessed are they who bash your children’s head against the rock.

“We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living. We bombed a plant in Sudan to pay back for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hard working people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that they’d never get back home.

“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye.

“Kids playing in the playground. Mothers picking up children after school. Civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.

“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff that we have done overseas is now brought right back into our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost.

“Violence begets violence. Hatred begets hatred. And terrorism begets terrorism. A white ambassador said that y’all, not a black militant. Not a reverend who preaches about racism. An ambassador whose eyes are wide open and who is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice upon which we are now poised. The ambassador said the people we have wounded don’t have the military capability we have. But they do have individuals who are willing to die and take thousands with them. And we need to come to grips with that.”

He went on to describe seeing the photos of the aftermath of 9/11 because he was in Newark, N.J., when the planes struck. After turning on the TV and seeing the second plane slam into one of the twin towers, he spoke passionately about what if you never got a chance to say hello to your family again.

“What is the state of your family?” he asked.

And then he told his congregation that he loved them and asked the church to tell each other they loved themselves.

His sermon thesis:

1. This is a time for self-examination of ourselves and our families.

2. This is a time for social transformation (then he went on to say they won’t put me on PBS or national cable for what I’m about to say. Talk about prophetic!)

“We have got to change the way we have been doing things as a society,” he said.

Wright then said we can’t stop messing over people and thinking they can’t touch us. He said we may need to declare war on racism, injustice, and greed, instead of war on other countries.

“Maybe we need to declare war on AIDS. In five minutes the Congress found $40 billion to rebuild New York and the families that died in sudden death, do you think we can find the money to make medicine available for people who are dying a slow death? Maybe we need to declare war on the nation’s healthcare system that leaves the nation’s poor with no health coverage? Maybe we need to declare war on the mishandled educational system and provide quality education for everybody, every citizen, based on their ability to learn, not their ability to pay. This is a time for social transformation.”

3. This is time to tell God thank you for all that he has provided and that he gave him and others another chance to do His will.

By the way, nowhere in this sermon did he said “God damn America.” I’m not sure which sermon that came from.

This doesn’t explain anything away, nor does it absolve Wright of using the N-word, but what it does do is add an accurate perspective to this conversation.

The point that I have always made as a journalist is that our job is to seek the truth, and not the partial truth.

I am also listening to the other sermons delivered by Rev. Wright that have been the subject of controversy.

And let me be clear: Where I believe he was wrong and not justified in what he said based upon the facts, I will say so. But where the facts support his argument, that will also be said.

So stay tuned.

Oh, Brian Kilmead also walked out becaused of the biased news reporting being done by Fox, as well as Christopher Wallace also had a bit to say about Fox's Obama-Bashing commentaries.
Mayhem At Fox News: Anchor Walks Off Set, Wallace Rails Network For "Obama-Bashing" - Media on The Huffington Post

Even Huckabee is defending Obama... Political Punch

AlicornsPrayer · #49 (**permalink**) 03-22-2008, 02:37 AM

And just put up, the controversial 'God D**n America' commentary...

Anderson Cooper 360: Blog Archive - The full story behind Wrightâ€™s â€œGod Damn Americaâ€ sermon « - Blogs from CNN.com

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I just finished listening to the nearly 40-minute sermon Rev. Jeremiah Wright gave on April 13, 2003, titled, “Confusing God and Government.”
1. Governments lie.

“This government lied about their belief that all men were created equal. The truth is they believed that all white men were created equal. The truth is they did not even believe that white women were created equal, in creation nor civilization. The government had to pass an amendment to the Constitution to get white women the vote. Then the government had to pass an equal rights amendment to get equal protection under the law for women. The government still thinks a woman has no rights over her own body, and between Uncle Clarence (Thomas), who sexually harassed Anita Hill, and a closeted Klan court, that is a throwback to the 19th century, handpicked by Daddy Bush, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford, between Clarence and that stacked court, they are about to un-do Roe vs. Wade, just like they are about to un-do affirmative action. The government lied in its founding documents and the government is still lying today. Governments lie.”

“The government lied about Pearl Harbor. They knew the Japanese were going to attack. Governments lie. The government lied about the Gulf of Tonkin. They wanted that resolution to get us in the Vietnam War. Governments lie. The government lied about Nelson Mandela and our CIA helped put him in prison and keep him there for 27 years. The South African government lied on Nelson Mandela. Governments lie.”

“The government lied about the Tuskegee experiment. They purposely infected African American men with syphilis. Governments lie. The government lied about bombing Cambodia and Richard Nixon stood in front of the camera, ‘Let me make myself perfectly clear…’ Governments lie. The government lied about the drugs for arms Contra scheme orchestrated by Oliver North, and then the government pardoned all the perpetrators so they could get better jobs in the government. Governments lie.”

“The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. Governments lie. The government lied about a connection between Al Qaeda and Saddam Hussein and a connection between 9.11.01 and Operation Iraqi Freedom. Governments lie.”

“The government lied about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq being a threat to the United States peace. And guess what else? If they don’t find them some weapons of mass destruction, they gonna do just like the LAPD, and plant the some weapons of mass destruction. Governments lie.”

2. Governments change. He said long before the United States colonized the world, so did Egypt.

“All colonizers are not white. Turn to your neighbors and say that oppressors come in all colors.”

He then went back to the Bible and spoke about the changing of kings in Babylonia.

“Prior to Abraham Lincoln, the government in this country said it was legal to hold African in slavery in perpetuity…when Lincoln got in office, the government changed. Prior to the passing of the 13th, 14th and 15th amendments to the Constitution, government defined African as slaves, as property. Property, people with no rights to be respected by any whites anywhere. The Supreme Court of the government, same court, granddaddy of the court that stole the 2000 election. Supreme court said in it’s Dred Scott decision in the 1850s, no African anywhere in this country has any rights that any white person has to respect at any place, any time. That was the government’s official position backed up by the Supreme Court – that’s the judiciary; backed up by the executive branch – that’s the president; backed up by the legislative branch and enforced by the military of the government. But I stop by to tell you tonight that government’s change.”

“Prior to Harry Truman’s government, the military was segregated. But governments change.”

“Prior to the Civil Rights and equal accommodation laws of the government in this country, there was backed segregation by the country, legal discrimination by the government, prohibited blacks from voting by the government, you had to eat and sit in separate places by the government, you had sit in different places from white folks because the government said so, and you had to buried in a separate cemetery. It was apartheid, American style, from the cradle to the grave, all because the government backed it up.”

“But guess what? Governments change. Under Bill Clinton, we got a messed up welfare to work bill, but under Clinton blacks had an intelligent friend in the Oval Office. Oh, but governments change.”

“The election was stolen. We went from an intelligent friend to a dumb Dixiecrat. A rich Republican who has never held a job in his life; is against affirmative action (and) against education – I guess he is; against healthcare, against benefits for his own military, and gives tax breaks to the wealthiest contributors to his campaign. Governments change. Sometimes for the good, and sometimes for the bad.”

“Where governments change, God does not change. God is the same yesterday, today and forever more. That’s what his name I Am means. He does not change.”

“God was against slavery on yesterday, and God, who does not change, is still against slavery today. God was a God of love yesterday, and God who does not change, is still a God of love today. God was a God of justice on yesterday, and God who does not change, is still a God of justice today.”

“God does not change.”

3. He then speaks of the government in his Bible text and said the Romans failed. Then he said the British government failed even after it colonized the world. He said the Russian government failed. The Japanese government failed. The German government failed.

“And the United States of America government, when it came to treating her citizens of Indian descent, she failed. She put them on reservations.”

“When it came to putting her citizens of Japanese descent fairly, she failed. She put them in interment prison camps.”

“When it came to putting the citizens of African descent fairly, America failed. She put them in chains. The government put them on slave quarters. Put them on auction blocks. Put them in cotton fields. Put them in inferior schools. Put them in substandard housing. Put them scientific experiments. Put them in the lower paying jobs. Put them outside the equal protection of the law. Kept them out of their racist bastions of higher education, and locked them into positions of hopelessness and helplessness.”

“The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three strike law and then wants us to sing God Bless America. Naw, naw, naw. Not God Bless America. God Damn America! That’s in the Bible. For killing innocent people. God Damn America for treating us citizens as less than human. God Damn America as long as she tries to act like she is God and she is Supreme.”

“The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent. Think about this. Think about this. For every one Oprah, a billionaire, you’ve got 5 million blacks that are out of work. For every one Colin Powell, a millionaire, you’ve got 10 million blacks who cannot read. For every one Condi-Skeezer Rice, you’ve got 1 million in prison. For every one Tiger Woods, who needs to get beat at the Masters, with his Cablanasian hips, playing on a course that discriminates against women, God has this way of brining you up short when you get to big for your Cablanasian britches. For every one Tiger Woods, we’ve got 10,000 black kids who will never see a golf course. The United States government has failed the vast majority of her citizens of African descent.”

“Tell your neighbor he’s (going to) help us one last time. Turn back and say forgive him for the God Damn, that’s in the Bible though. Blessings and curses is in the Bible. It’s in the Bible.

“Where government fail, God never fails. When God says it, it’s done. God never fails. When God wills it, you better get out the way, cause God never fails. When God fixes it, oh believe me it’s fixed. God never fails. Somebody right now, you think you can’t make it, but I want you to know that you are more than a conqueror through Christ. You can do all things through Christ who strengthens you.”

He then went on to talk about the salvation of Christians through the death of Jesus Christ. The sermon ended with a song proclaiming, “God never fails.”

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