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Old 01-29-2012, 01:39 PM
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Yes. That's what I said. The hospital is a government agency then.
And, of course, you know better than the Alabama state Vital Statistics official who told me that up until some time in the sixties all originals were stored at the hospital of birth unless it was a home birth.
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http://http://www.conservativeaction...ff-the-ballot/
And it looks like Alabama is going to follow suit...
http://obama-blocked-from-registerin...dated-by-court
Leave it to the good 'ol boys.
The Birther discussions are hilarious.

You have some on the right who CLING to the birther clause, thinking they are doing something great they can be proud of.
You have others on the right who understand it is an embarrassment, and try to pin the blame on Obama.

In the end, it's simply a circus that embarrasses the right.

Regardless, if you actually click to read the links and WHY this court presumed to rule the way it did, you'll find this:
The point is, to be a natural born citizen, one must have 2 parents who, at the time of the birth in question, be citizens of the United States. As Obamaís father was not a citizen, the argument is that Obama, constitutionally, is ineligible to serve as President.
thenationalpatriot.com Blog Archive OBAMA ELIGIBILITY COURT CASE…BLOW BY BLOW

So, for the people who need it spelled out for them, this ruling NEVER claimed that Obama was not born in Hawaii...
The birth certificate being "false" WAS NOT the basis of this ruling.

(And yet we see people chiming in, cackling with glee over a pretense that somehow his birth certificate has been shown insufficient... )

No.
This court is using a FALSE standard, proclaiming he cannot be "natural born" unless BOTH his parents were American.


And the bottom line...
Ignoring how this ruling will never stand on appeal, if a state WERE to insist on leaving Obama off the ballot...
... The federal government could simply INVALIDATE the state's votes as it refused to place all eligible participants on the ballot.


In the end, this circus act is amazing.
Congratz to the birthers. After shopping around FOR YEARS for a judge who is as nutty as they are, it looks like you guys found one.
If you had a sense of context and reality, you would realize this won't last...
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So Obama has nothing to hide, eh? What's with the recalcitrance on his part? Showing his original is beneath him?
If I were in his place I would feel the same way. He is the only President I know of who has had to prove he was a Citizen 3 years into his first term in office. The fact that there are people out there who still believe the nonsense is beyond comprehension.
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http://http://www.conservativeaction...ff-the-ballot/

And it looks like Alabama is going to follow suit...



http://obama-blocked-from-registerin...dated-by-court

Leave it to the good 'ol boys.

And Southerners wonder why the rest of the country holds them in contempt.
It's because they are continually disgracing themselves and making a mockery of themselves. Case in point.
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Mine is lost. And, due to a fire in the hospital archives, unobtainable. I guess I am no longer a citizen.
You should be able to acquire a legal copy of your Birth Certificate as long as you were born after 1908 , the Department of Vital statistics has you on record...

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And Southerners wonder why the rest of the country holds them in contempt.
It's because they are continually disgracing themselves and making a mockery of themselves. Case in point.
And all Italian-Americans are associated with the mob, all gay men have AIDS or HIV, all women who are pro-choice have had an abortion, and so on...

The use of the stereotype says more about the user than the group.
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And Southerners wonder why the rest of the country holds them in contempt.
It's because they are continually disgracing themselves and making a mockery of themselves. Case in point.
Wow. Got an itch you can't scratch?
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At any rate, the final decision is Kempís. Regardless of what Malihi recommends, Kemp does not want to become the Republican secretary of state who ruled Barack Obama off the ballot in Georgia. Becoming a birther hero would not begin to compensate for the lasting infamy such a step would bring him, especially because such a ruling would be challenged in state or federal court and almost immediately overturned on any number of reasons. Kemp would then look like a fool and put an end to any further political ambitions he might have. I doubt thatís the course he will choose to take.

In the end, there is no chance whatsoever that Obamaís name will not be on the Georgia ballot come November.
Some cold water on overheated birther-mania | Jay Bookman

The birthers found a judge who was sympathetic to their cause. Ignoring facts and precedent, to rule in a manner that will obviously never be supported in superior courts.

It won't change anything...
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You should be able to acquire a legal copy of your Birth Certificate as long as you were born after 1908 , the Department of Vital statistics has you on record...

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I have a legal birth certificate. It looks very much like the first one that President Obama obtained from the State of Hawaii.

Getting that was no problem as the state has the county logbooks where doctors were required to record all live births.

But, according to the Alabama Vital Statistics office my original, the one with all the signatures and such, was destroyed in a fire. By birther standards, that means that I cannot prove my citizenship.
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I have a legal birth certificate. It looks very much like the first one that President Obama obtained from the State of Hawaii.

Getting that was no problem as the state has the county logbooks where doctors were required to record all live births.

But, according to the Alabama Vital Statistics office my original, the one with all the signatures and such, was destroyed in a fire. By birther standards, that means that I cannot prove my citizenship.
lol.. uh, the fact that the Office of Vital Statistics has you on record as being born in that particular Hospital in Alabama on such and such date and the fact that they have all the information needed to print you a legal copy if the need should arise for you to prove you are American , well You have it... But I get the point, Birthers need more than that.
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