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Old 10-06-2011, 11:42 PM
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They don't ****ing represent me.
They don't need you either, you wannabe Ayn Rand, you.

Goddess forbid you should ever need representation! But you never will.

You are not of the 100 IQ (read average) masses, who toil at the hard work of this planet, working for smart rich men who try to keep labor costs down as far as they can get away with. In all seriousness, you are too smart for that. I can't imagine you in a factory, packing candy or a slaughterhouse butchering meat or on a farm, picking beans, or flipping burgers at a franchise restaurant. Let alone in a line, manufacturing cars, or at any other labor. You will never work on that level and will never need the support of commonalities with these lower class masses. You may never even work in a cubicle with a computer at permanent entry levels jobs.

You will always carve your own way as your erstwhile mentor did, going nose to nose, toe to toe with any other person you should work with. You are not the average and you know it.
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What did he say that isn't true? If you aren't rich or are on welfare you f*cking caused it. Or didn't do enough to get there.

Where is he wrong?
The part about corporations being allowed to destroy democracy.
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Old 10-06-2011, 11:57 PM
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Cain actually seems to take for granted the value of "getting rich" over any other values he could have named. That is not a value shared by most people who want to have enough, but would rather take time off to play than work overhard to get rich.

Labor is willing to toil for a master, but wants enough time and money to maintain an average lifestyle and certain self-interests such as hobbies. This balance makes for a strongly lived and happy life for the individual and a strong society with sustainable values.

A well educated and well employed middle class is why most of us here even have the education to be able to discuss this stuff, in writing.

I made the conscious decision not to play the get rich game and I have never been sorry. I never wanted more than to have a home and family and time to pursue my own interests. I have worked hard enough to ensure this level of comfort and will work hard enough to maintain it, even if it means getting socially active to do it.
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The part about corporations being allowed to destroy democracy.
What does a corporation have to do with your failure? And how do they get you the employee to not vote? You still have that right you know, at least until card check gets implemented.
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Old 10-08-2011, 01:22 AM
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Cain actually seems to take for granted the value of "getting rich" over any other values he could have named. That is not a value shared by most people who want to have enough, but would rather take time off to play than work overhard to get rich.

Labor is willing to toil for a master, but wants enough time and money to maintain an average lifestyle and certain self-interests such as hobbies. This balance makes for a strongly lived and happy life for the individual and a strong society with sustainable values.

A well educated and well employed middle class is why most of us here even have the education to be able to discuss this stuff, in writing.

I made the conscious decision not to play the get rich game and I have never been sorry. I never wanted more than to have a home and family and time to pursue my own interests. I have worked hard enough to ensure this level of comfort and will work hard enough to maintain it, even if it means getting socially active to do it.
Isn't that your fault for settling? Obviously you made a conscience decision to not be rich so whay do those that decided to go for it owe you anything?

Welcome to the middle class of people who just chose not to rich in exchange for family time. You got what you earned. Why are you so p*ssed off and want the money of those that didn't take that route?
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What does a corporation have to do with your failure?
What makes you think I'm a failure? What's that based on?

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And how do they get you the employee to not vote?
They don't, the republican right does that. Or, at least they're trying.

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You still have that right you know, at least until card check gets implemented.
So you're actively trying to suppress the rights of others.

You can't get more un-American than that.
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Isn't that your fault for settling? Obviously you made a conscience decision to not be rich so whay do those that decided to go for it owe you anything?

Welcome to the middle class of people who just chose not to rich in exchange for family time. You got what you earned. Why are you so p*ssed off and want the money of those that didn't take that route?
Whaaa??? you aren't talking about me. Maybe you are talking to whom you THINK I am? What money do you think I want?

Yours? Hell, no. I just think that people who use resources at a higher rate to earn more should pay their fair share of taxes. Most of the rich people I know (and that is most of my school and family friends), want to pay more taxes. It is simple arithmetic that the rich need to pay more than the poor do. Back when I was growing up, the rich paid 50% and bitched about it, but it did not stop them from skiing, sailing, or flying and buying ALL the equipment to do so. Or staying in the best hotels, going to the best schools. Buying expensive art. Buying couture clothing, the best pearls and other jewels. Paying 50% taxes never made a rich person poor!!!! Heck, neither did paying 90% taxes! And those figures are not even on the table.

Why don't you try being rich yourself before you take it upon yourself to protect them! No one who is rich even posts on this forum. quit projecting your middle class values on the rich; you have no clue......
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Seems like there are a bunch of rich folks on this forum. I guess that 95% of Americans should be rich if not for their own idiocy This guy is a pure putz. And BTW a bigot.
He said that it was better to move to the back of the bus then to stir up trouble. Good thing Rosa Parks showed more balls so he could have freedom. Hiding behind a womans apron. You can have this self obsorbed fruit loop. He ain't coming close to being POTUS so it really doesn't matter. You can convince the right to vote for almost anyone these days. Problem is he can't get the middle and he would need them. They don't vote for bigots.


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