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Old 02-20-2008, 03:49 PM
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For this I am proud of Obama's wife but I am more proud with Hilary Clinton.
Makes no sense to be more proud of Hillary because she was involved in many of the negative things that have occurred.
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Right on the Mark: Pride (in the name of politics)

...My belief is that Michelle Obama has been proud of her country before. I believe people make statements like hers for emotion & affect without regard for accuracy. It sounds great to folks who might be struggling at the moment, or to those who have been inspired by her husband's campaign. Clearly this is Pride (in the name of politics).
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Maybe she's just being honest. After all, pride is an emotion. We don't have much control over what triggers goose bumps, tears, or compels us to initiate a standing ovation.
Just a thought.
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Maybe she's just being honest. After all, pride is an emotion. We don't have mech control over what triggers goose bumps, tears, or compels us to initiate a standing ovation.
Just a thought.
I actually think you're correct...

A lot of people are jumping in front of each other trying to re-interpret what she meant so she doesn't offend (and lose votes)...

I have a better idea...Let's take her word for it and NOT spin it to what's "politically advantageous"...

There has been a rash of people who SEEM to put their foot in their mouth, but are REALLY giving us a glimpse of how they truly feel...

Dick Durbin saying American troops act like Pol Pot and Stalin...

John Kerry's "botched joke" about people either being educated or else they'll end up in Iraq...

Anti-war protestors burning a US soldier in effigy in Portland last year...

The people on their side of the aisle WANT to defend their position by saying these are just isolated incidents and not a movement...I disagree...

What Michelle Obama said IS a movement...She is representative of the FAR Left base that believes America is a bad place that can only be salvaged by certain individuals...

They are NOT "not proud" in contect...They are NOT "not proud" but only in certain circumstances...

They are not proud PERIOD...

They REALLY believe that America is scum...an imperialist, pushy scum that will only right itself if "their guy" leads the way...If not, America will continue to be scum...

There are many who feel this way...Berkeley is a perfect example...Hollywood elitists another...

So what she said IS indicative of the thought process of known segments of society...To say that she didn't mean it is to only prevent political damage...which means hiding her true feelings...and living a farce...
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I actually think you're correct...

A lot of people are jumping in front of each other trying to re-interpret what she meant so she doesn't offend (and lose votes)...

I have a better idea...Let's take her word for it and NOT spin it to what's "politically advantageous"...

There has been a rash of people who SEEM to put their foot in their mouth, but are REALLY giving us a glimpse of how they truly feel...

Dick Durbin saying American troops act like Pol Pot and Stalin...

John Kerry's "botched joke" about people either being educated or else they'll end up in Iraq...

Anti-war protestors burning a US soldier in effigy in Portland last year...

The people on their side of the aisle WANT to defend their position by saying these are just isolated incidents and not a movement...I disagree...

What Michelle Obama said IS a movement...She is representative of the FAR Left base that believes America is a bad place that can only be salvaged by certain individuals...

They are NOT "not proud" in contect...They are NOT "not proud" but only in certain circumstances...

They are not proud PERIOD...

They REALLY believe that America is scum...an imperialist, pushy scum that will only right itself if "their guy" leads the way...If not, America will continue to be scum...

There are many who feel this way...Berkeley is a perfect example...Hollywood elitists another...

So what she said IS indicative of the thought process of known segments of society...To say that she didn't mean it is to only prevent political damage...which means hiding her true feelings...and living a farce...
Yeppers. And these two schools of thought have been prevalent for a long long time.
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Here are some more things Mrs.Obama should be proud of, along with some other truths.
Well, there are some truths and more truths about Mrs. Obama's speech. Just feel free to check in Obama's political campaign.
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If we are going to misconstrue peoples intent, then lets not leave anyone out...

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I didn't really take her comment that seriously but what bothers me is the way she is given a pass by the media. The same media that accused Bill Clinton of all people of being a racist. Maybe the collective slavery guilt inoculates her from the critics. I don't know. But the Obamas have the MSM in their pockets
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Look, let me open the can of worms... she is talking about be9ing BLACK people..BLACK... she has not had reaqson to be proud of the usa (meaning white people) due to their constant bias behavior, and it is shocking that white people are voting for this black man. THAT is why WHITE PEOPLE and BLACK PEOPLE should be proud. does that statement BOTHER you? Then YOU are the type that she is talkin about!


So while regan was saying "tear down this wall" as if HE was behind them doing that (which he wasnt) blacks were swtill being kicked socially. So who cares about the prez in some other land liberating them (which he didnt) and we were still having issues with being hired fairly? So NO she had NO reason to be proud of her country till now, and neither have I.

The funny thing is, whites feel the same way. THATS why they use words like "phenomena" or "movement" or "suprising" when refering to obama's wins. WHY use such words? is he LANDSLIDING? no! So WHY is it a Phenom that he wins? CUZ HE'S BLACK AND GETTING WHITE VOTES....People TALK OPENLY!!!!
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