Mitch Daniels won't run in 2012 - Page 2

WallyWager · #11 (**permalink**) 05-22-2011, 12:55 PM

It's the press's fault Huckabee and Daniels aren't running?

Well then again, FNC did give Huckabee that sweet gig, probably didn't want to leave.

Calypso Jones · #12 (**permalink**) 05-22-2011, 01:09 PM

Daniels: Skeletons

Huck: Waiting till 2016 and doesn't want to show his hand yet.

Calypso Jones · #13 (**permalink**) 05-23-2011, 09:49 AM

Here's the skeleton:

RealClearPolitics - Why Mitch Daniels Said No

Gordon Shumway · #14 (**permalink**) 05-23-2011, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spencer Collins

Mitch Daniels won't run in 2012

And the field narrows.........

this sucks...someone I was excited about voting for...
John Huntsman Jr...?...

I guess I gotta change my avatar now

Calypso Jones · #15 (**permalink**) 05-23-2011, 02:22 PM

Huntsman is a Rino. And Can you Tell? The media likes him. That should be a big clue. They're picking the right's candidate again. Only this time, i believe the rep party knows they are in some serious trouble. Tea partiers seem to be quiet. But they are seething.

Spencer Collins · #16 (**permalink**) 05-23-2011, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gordon Shumway

this sucks...someone I was excited about voting for...
John Huntsman Jr...?...

I guess I gotta change my avatar now

At this point..Huntsman is the only R that could possibly get my vote.So far,I remain an uncommitted independent but if Willard gets the nomination I will vote for the opposition.

DammitBoy! · #17 (**permalink**) 05-23-2011, 02:34 PM

Herman Cain people, it's Herman Cain.

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alsoplustoo - Palin won't run

Gordon Shumway · #18 (**permalink**) 05-23-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DammitBoy!

Herman Cain people, it's Herman Cain.

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alsoplustoo - Palin won't run

I do like what I've seen from Cain thus far
I will have to take a more serious look at him.

Gordon Shumway · #19 (**permalink**) 05-23-2011, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calypso Jones

Huntsman is a Rino. And Can you Tell? The media likes him. That should be a big clue. They're picking the right's candidate again. Only this time, i believe the rep party knows they are in some serious trouble. Tea partiers seem to be quiet. But they are seething.

Jon Huntsman, Jr. - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Huntsman is a Republican, with conservative fiscal credentials and a mixture of positions on social issues. He has been described as "a conservative technocrat-optimist with moderate positions who was willing to work substantively with President Barack Obama."[49] As governor, Huntsman listed economic development, health-care reform, education, and energy security as his top priorities. He oversaw large tax cuts and advocated reorganizing the way that services were distributed so that the government would not become overwhelmed by the state's fast growing population. He also proposed a plan to reform health-care, mainly through the private sector, by using tax breaks and negotiation to keep prices down.[50]

In a 2008 evaluation of state governors' fiscal policies, the libertarian Cato Institute praised Huntsman's conservative tax policies, ranking him in a tie for fifth place on overall fiscal policy. He was particularly lauded for his efforts to cut taxes, where he received the highest score on tax policy of all 50 governors. The report specifically highlighted his reductions of the sales tax and simplification of the tax code.[51] However, the report concluded that: "Unfortunately, Huntsman has completely dropped the ball on spending, with per capita spending increasing at about 10 percent annually during his tenure."[51] He defines his taxation policy as "business friendly".[52] Huntsman has spoken out against his own party over the failure of the Republican-controlled State Senate to confirm his nominee for the Utah Court of Appeals.

Huntsman has strongly supported civil unions for years.[53] As Utah's Governor, he supported legislation that would have allowed Civil Unions for same-sex couples in the state.[54] The governor also sees Utah as being uncompetitive with the rest of the nation in terms of securing the best teachers.[55]

On foreign policy, Huntsman has repeatedly stated, "We need to continue working closely with China to convince North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapons program." He has also named Taiwan, human rights, and Tibet among the "areas where we have differences with China" and vowed "robust engagement" on human rights if confirmed. The governor, who lived in Taiwan as a Mormon missionary, said he felt "personally invested in the peaceful resolution of cross-strait differences, in a way that respects the wishes of the people on both Taiwan and the mainland. He said that current US policy "supports this objective, and I have been encouraged by the recent relaxing of cross-strait tensions."[56] Huntsman is a strong supporter of Israel and has made several visits to Israel.[57]

While not a perfect candidate; with a tax policy history like his; I don't see the "rino" moniker being accurate.
For some folks it seems that any republican that disagrees with them one little stinking bit is a rino --- maybe the ones throwing around such names are the real rinos.

Gordon Shumway · #20 (**permalink**) 05-23-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DammitBoy!

Herman Cain people, it's Herman Cain.

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alsoplustoo - Palin won't run

here's a problem with Cain...

Quote:

Bank bailouts

Cain supported the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) bank bailouts as a way to save the economy, viewing it as an investment opportunity for the taxpayers. In a 2008 editorial, Cain wrote, "Owning a part of the major banks in America is not a bad thing. We could make a profit while solving a problem.".[40] In May 2011, regarding his TARP support, Cain said "I don’t have any regrets".... "I studied the situation. I didn’t have trouble with the idea; I had trouble with its implementation, picking winners and losers."[41]

he also favors the fair tax & doesn't believe the federal reserves needs to be audited...
I haven't been convinced of the fair tax & the fed thing isn't high on my priority list but it probably should be audited.

in the meantime...former governors Jon Huntsman & Gary Johnson have clear records of political leadership (one of the things I liked about Daniels even though I may not have agreed on every little issue).

I already posted some stuff about Huntsman...now here's a little about Johnson...

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He slashed the size of state government during his term and left the state with a large budget surplus."[36] According to one New Mexico paper, "Johnson left the state fiscally solid," and was "arguably the most popular governor of the decade . . . leaving the state with a $1 billion budget surplus."[37] The Washington Times has reported that when Johnson left office, "the size of state government had been substantially reduced and New Mexico was enjoying a large budget surplus."[24]

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Johnson is in favor of simplifying and reducing taxes.[58] During his governorship, Johnson didn't increase taxes once and cut them fourteen times.[59] Due to his stance on taxes, David Weigel described him as "the original Tea Party candidate".[60]

Johnson supports balancing the federal budget immediately.[61]

this is not to say I agree with him on everything but on the majority I do...

there's something to like & dislike about every candidate
the trick is to figure out what positions can a candidate actually deliver on & which things are dead on arrival or which positions would likely change once in the position of POTUS as we've seen no new taxes become new taxes & the closing of gitmo not happen or opposition to nation building become in favor of nation building in two different & consecutive presidencies thus far & on down the line
I believe the next president will be someone with a record to run on or from...which means either Obama will be re-elected or a republican governor will be the next POTUS...I'm hoping for a republican governor with a good track record of conservative leadership & results

Gary E. Johnson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Herman Cain - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

now I understand these are just wikipedia pages & aren't the gospel but it's a good start for getting to know a candidate
when it gets closer the website www.ontheissues.org is a great place to learn about a candidate...

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