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Old 01-12-2008, 12:55 PM
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Republican presidential contender Mike Huckabee brought his populist message to Michigan on the hunt for blue-collar workers that Ronald Reagan once brought into the Republican fold.

The former Arkansas governor promised that his economic policy would help not just those at the top but also those at the bottom, including those in Michigan with its so-called one-state recession.

He spoke passionately about the woes of the state he hopes to win in Tuesday's Republican primary. Michigan, he said, helped the U.S. build up a manufacturing base that made possible victories in World War II and other conflicts. "There was a time in this nation's history when Michigan saved America, and now it may be time for America to help save Michigan," he said to applause at the Detroit Economic Club.
You know, Mike doesn't seem so bad. It just frightens me that he wants to govern from the pulpit. That violates what my heart tells me about the separation of church and state. I don't think a Senator should be a minister just as I don't think that minister should be a Senator or President. Specialize, God or people... blurring the lines is terrifying really.

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You know, Mike doesn't seem so bad. It just frightens me that he wants to govern from the pulpit. That violates what my heart tells me about the separation of church and state. I don't think a Senator should be a minister just as I don't think that minister should be a Senator or President. Specialize, God or people... blurring the lines is terrifying really.

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I believe that attitude is just as discriminating as saying a woman or person of color wouldn't get someone's vote based on just that, too...

I've asked before and haven't gotten an answer, so I'll ask again...

Show me where Huckabee "governed from the pulpit" when he spent 3 terms as Governor of Arkansas...

If you can realize that he's already proven that he has no intentions of doing so, than I see the fear as paranoia...

"That guy has a beard, tattoos, and a leather vest...and even though he doesn't have a prison record, he invites me to barbeques, and helped me put on a new roof last year, I'm STILL scared that because he looks like someone from the Hell's Angels, he might stab me."...
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You know, Mike doesn't seem so bad. It just frightens me that he wants to govern from the pulpit. That violates what my heart tells me about the separation of church and state. I don't think a Senator should be a minister just as I don't think that minister should be a Senator or President. Specialize, God or people... blurring the lines is terrifying really.

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Ya know dabaeman,I once held that opinion of Huck { govern from the pulpit } but now I'm not so sure. He addressed that issue in the last debate and I believed he answered well.I cant find the exact quote,I'm lazy today but he spoke about following his Christian convictions and not governing by them. I found this to be helpful in making my decision. Yes..I'm still "concerned",the problem is his "ordination". I keep asking myself..WWJD?

Jesus rejected politics and so did his apostles. Their kingdom was not of this world.I cannot say that I have no concern with the "ordained" running for POTUS for I am concerned with this issue.Could I vote for Huck? Well..I like him,he strikes me as down to earth but would any of us vote for a Catholic priest? Perhaps some Catholics would but others,if they are honest,would have "some" concerns!

I have a problem with "any"..."ordained" minister or priest running for POTUS. I am a Catholic and I would never approve of a priest running for "any" governmental office. I would actively campaighn "against" the priest. I'm sure Evangelicals would agree with my position!!!!! They would also oppose a priest running for POTUS. The question is this,would those Evangelicals also oppose a minister? Good question and I think we all know the answer..
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7. He doesn’t believe in science. Huckabee doesn’t believe in evolution. He famously raised his hand during a Republican presidential debate when candidates were asked which ones disbelieved in Darwin’s theory. He doesn’t believe in global warming. In fact, he says he’ll always choose his religious beliefs over science. He’s quoted in Salon: “Oh, I believe in science. I certainly do. In fact, what I believe in is, I believe in God. I don't think there's a conflict between the two. But if there's going to be a conflict, science changes with every generation and with new discoveries and God doesn't. So I'll stick with God if the two are in conflict." If that quote doesn’t scare you, then your voting privileges need to be revoked. Is this the guy you want deciding policy on public health, or stem cell research, or weapons research, or the space program?

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Huckabee: U.S. gave up on religion

SALT LAKE CITY — Government may have dropped the ball in modern American society, but religion dropped it first, Gov. Mike Huckabee told Southern Baptist pastors Sunday night.

"The reason we have so much government is because we have so much broken humanity," he said. "And the reason we have so much broken humanity is because sin reigns in the hearts and lives of human beings instead of the Savior."

Huckabee, an ordained Southern Baptist minister, addressed his contemporaries at the two-day Pastors' Conference, which continues today. The three-day Southern Baptist Convention begins Tuesday here in the heartland of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the city in which the Mormons have their world headquarters.

Huckabee told the pastors gathered in the Salt Palace Convention Center that while the March 1, 1997, tornadoes which struck Arkansas were tragic, at least the devastation could be clearly seen from a helicopter. In contrast, he said, the catalysts for the nation's recent school shootings -- including the one March 24 near Jonesboro that left four students and a teacher dead and 10 others wounded -- were harder to see but were driven by "the winds of spiritual change in a nation that has forgotten its God."

"Government knows it does not have the answer, but it's arrogant and acts as though it does," Huckabee said. "Church does have the answer but will cowardly deny that it does and wonder when the world will be changed."

The shootings were just one more wake-up call to the nation, he said.

"I fear we will turn and hit the snooze button one more time and lose this great republic of ours."

Huckabee said ungiving individuals are responsible for higher taxes.

"I'm often asked why taxes are so high and government is so big. It's because the faith we have in local churches has become so small. If we'd been doing what we should have -- giving a dime from every dollar to help the widows, the orphans and the poor -- we now wouldn't be giving nearly 50 cents of every dollar to a government that's doing ... what we should have been doing all along."

Huckabee also explained why he left pastoring for politics.

"I didn't get into politics because I thought government had a better answer. I got into politics because I knew government didn't have the real answers, that the real answers lie in accepting Jesus Christ into our lives."

He compared his entry into politics to "getting inside the dragon's belly," adding, "There's not one thing we can do in those marbled halls and domed capitols that can equal what's done when Jesus touches the lives of a sinner."

The most basic unit of government is not the city council, quorum court or state legislature, Huckabee said. "It is Mom and Dad raising kids and teaching them respect for authority, others and God."

The nation has descended gradually into crisis, Huckabee said, and repairing the damage needs to be gradual, too. He said the solution is simple: faith in Christ.

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"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves." (Matthew 7:15) Christianity is supposed to be a faith of compassion. Huckabee's stance on AIDS, gays, and capital punishment alone is enough to make him a wolf in sheep's clothing.
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