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Kind of a weird "what if" op-ed...Funky food for thought...

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With Barack Obama’s meteoric rise topping the news these days, many people have forgotten the bizarre series of events that paved the way to his stunning ascendance. It’s especially interesting given that some personal and minor details, thought at the time to be insignificant, could now eventually shape the world we live in - given that Obama has a realistic chance to win the presidency. In retrospect, Obama’s presidential run was the candidacy that almost never happened.

Back in 2004, Barack Obama was an Illinois state senator with some modest accomplishments on his resume. He spearheaded welfare reform in the Illinois statehouse, and took the lead in passing a law that required interrogations in murder cases to be videotaped.

After unsuccessfully challenging strong Democratic incumbent Bobby Rush in a Congressional primary in 2000, Obama returned in 2004 to run for the U.S. Senate seat being vacated by Republican Senator Peter Fitzgerald. Obama emerged from a crowded Democratic primary that included multi-millionaire Blair Hull, who spent $29 million of his own money in the primary alone (including paying homeowners $75 a day to keep his signs in their yards). In an 8-candidate race, Obama garnered 53% of the vote, routing his opponents.

Yet despite running away with the primary, Obama still had a formidable challenge in Republican Jack Ryan. Ryan was an impressive candidate - attractive and wealthy, with law and business degrees from Harvard. After making a fortune at Goldman Sachs, Ryan left to teach in an inner city school.

Yet Ryan had a problem - during the campaign, he was going through a messy divorce from actress Jeri Ryan, of “Star Trek: Voyager” fame. Details of Jeri Ryan’s testimony contained lurid details about Ryan forcing his wife to go to sex clubs in Paris. These details were toxic to Jack Ryan’s campaign, and he saw his poll numbers plummet - eventually, Republican leaders pressed Ryan to quit the race, fearing he was toxic to the statewide ticket.

Eventually, Ryan bowed out, leaving the Illinois Republican Party to find a candidate to run against Obama. This led to the national embarrassment of Alan Keyes moving to Illinois to run. Naturally, Obama won 70%-27%, buoyed by his keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic Convention.

The rest is history. Certainly, Obama deserves all the credit for the way he has excited Democratic crowds around the country - leading to his rout of Hillary Clinton in Iowa. And he may have beaten Jack Ryan on his own. But it’s fascinating to think that the salacious testimony of a woman scorned could one day fundamentally alter the path of the world in which we live. Without it, Barack Obama could still be sitting in the Illinois statehouse, planning his next political move.
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And if birth control pills were invented sooner, his college mom might have taken them and he never would have been born.
What difference does it make? He could've gotten run over by a truck.
The guy vacating the spot was a Democrat. The area probably has more liberal tendencies.
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And if birth control pills were invented sooner, his college mom might have taken them and he never would have been born.
What difference does it make? He could've gotten run over by a truck.
The guy vacating the spot was a Democrat. The area probably has more liberal tendencies.
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The story you need to check out was for his FIRST election in the state senate where he got an incumbent female civil rights icon and several other candidates disqualified from the election by disputing the signatures on their petitions to run after it was too late for them to get more.
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The story you need to check out was for his FIRST election in the state senate where he got an incumbent female civil rights icon and several other candidates disqualified from the election by disputing the signatures on their petitions to run after it was too late for them to get more.
Well that's generally when the disputing begins. When the deadline has passed and the information is turned in. If the information hasn't been made official by the clerk then how can he realistically dispute it?
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Well that's generally when the disputing begins. When the deadline has passed and the information is turned in. If the information hasn't been made official by the clerk then how can he realistically dispute it?
You are absolutely correct but the point was more along the lines of "nobody else" was a candidate.
Just like he won his senate seat from a "sex scandalized" republican and a late coming "media mocked" replacement.(Alan Keyes who is still mocked because he is one of the strongest conservatives anywhere and IS in this race for president also).

Just stating facts....he seems pretty smooth to me. And "lucky".

I do wonder how he became such a "media darling" and how he was chosen to give that speech that "launched" him not to mention the "speed" of his "achievements".


Damn, Now I feel sleazy like a "Clinton campaign spokesperson". These "facts" seem exactly like the sneaky tricks they use to undermine their opponents. Oh that IS where I found out about them. Nevermind. Just gossiping.
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You are absolutely correct but the point was more along the lines of "nobody else" was a candidate.
Just like he won his senate seat from a "sex scandalized" republican and a late coming "media mocked" replacement.(Alan Keyes who is still mocked because he is one of the strongest conservatives anywhere and IS in this race for president also).

Just stating facts....he seems pretty smooth to me. And "lucky".

I do wonder how he became such a "media darling" and how he was chosen to give that speech that "launched" him not to mention the "speed" of his "achievements".


Damn, Now I feel sleazy like a "Clinton campaign spokesperson". These "facts" seem exactly like the sneaky tricks they use to undermine their opponents. Oh that IS where I found out about them. Nevermind. Just gossiping.
Oh, I'm sure that Alan Keyes is a strong conservative, but he's a bit of a whack job too relatively speaking. Even Dick Cheney, the bane of liberal existence, hasn't mouthed one negative word about his daughter. Mr. Keyes cannot say the same. That is of course, if we're just gossiping.
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Oh, I'm sure that Alan Keyes is a strong conservative, but he's a bit of a whack job too relatively speaking. Even Dick Cheney, the bane of liberal existence, hasn't mouthed one negative word about his daughter. Mr. Keyes cannot say the same. That is of course, if we're just gossiping.
ALL parents have a right to "disown" their children just as the children on reaching adulthood may also reciprocate. Alan is deeply religious and to him homosexuality is an abomination and must be "shunned". I admire his fortitude and conservative convictions. He is usually not given the respect of being allowed to FINISH an answer to a question even when a conservative is doing the asking. Also he must be listened to very carefully because he tends to talk way over most people's level which causes many to want to mock him. He deserves much more respect than he is given. I respect him but I still don't know if I would choose him over all other candidates, I wouldn't eliminate him automatically like I do Ron Paul.
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