I think that there has to be a balance between passion and common sense, and I don't think that Mr. Keyes has it. We all have the 'right' to be assholes and start disowning family members, but it doesn't mean that we should. If he's disowning his own daughter, then that should reflect on his ability to deal with groups he personally doesn't like in office, regardless of their political means. I don't expect the man to support every action of the HRC, but I expect him to talk to them and treat them with respect as I would a liberal candidate with the NRA.

It's not that Mr. Keyes is speaking over my head. I fully understand what he says. I'm just not buying what he's selling. Part of that is the manner in which he sells it and part of it is the commodity itself. Mr. Keyes deserves the respect he gives and looking at his relationship with his daughter, I would say that's somewhere in the vicinity of zero.

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I tend to agree that Mr Keyes does not have the right temperament to be president but would have NO problem with him giving advice(knowing that there was someone that could choose whether to take it or not)to a president or a political party. He would make a much better sounding board than he would being in charge. I also choose to think that it is not "disrespectful" to choose to alienate ANYONE especially if their "morals" do not coincide with yours. If your child was a serial killer should you allow them to "come home"? This is not to equate sexual orientation with murder but just to illustrate a point. To some "sin" is sin and levels are open to interpretation.

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"Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively and without self delusion---In the long run these are the only people that count."Robert Heinlein

I see where you are coming from on the advisory role. I think that if we are going to have Mr. Keyes we should have Mr. Sharpton at the same table.

As far as a sin being a sin, I get what you are saying, but I could never be there. My child could be the most horrible person in the world, but I could never disown them. As a parent it is my responsibility for life to nurture, support, and love my child. That doesn't mean that I've an obligation to agree with what they've done.

In this world, your parents are the ones that you should be able to rely on.

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I give Al more respect than his occupation deserves because there have been times when he brought forth a different realization from me.

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"Most people can't think, most of the remainder won't think, the small fraction who do think mostly can't do it very well. The extremely tiny fraction who think regularly, accurately, creatively and without self delusion---In the long run these are the only people that count."Robert Heinlein