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Clinton recruits out-of-staters to pack rally

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Reporters who walked into this Nashua high school today were immediately struck by the crowd — there are visibly more people here for Sen. Hillary Clinton than were here for Sen. Barack Obama yesterday in the same location.

The Clinton crowd was loud and boisterous and their foot-stomping was thunderous.

Many of them were also from Massachusetts.

Clinton gave a few minute speech about how she sees the race for 2008 shaping up, then started taking questions. As she did, I noticed dozens of people start streaming out via the back doors.

Of the 7 people I interviewed, three said they had taken advantage of the short drive to come see both Clinton and Obama in the area in advance of the Feb. 5 Massachusetts primary.

But the others said they were Clinton volunteers who came up to canvass on her behalf this weekend.

Serap Sankoh, a biostatistician from Acton, Mass., said she had been actively recruited to attend and wave signs wildly by the Clinton campaign. "I got the telephone calls not last night but the night before and I'm a die-hard supporter, so I made the drive," she said...

...When the event ended I talked to some of the out-of-staters, including Julia Fuchs, 65 and a recent graduate student. She was about to board one of the buses back to New York after spending two days in the Granite State for Clinton.

"We are crazy about her. We came here to stump for her, they told me where to go," she said. "The campaign paid for everything."

Fuchs also told me that one questioner who asked about student loans during the event was one of the volunteers from New York.
I guess the support isn't high enough to not play pretend...
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I guess the support isn't high enough to not play pretend...
She's crafty. She isn't authentic. That is why she will lose.
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She's crafty. She isn't authentic. That is why she will lose.
I hope so...

It seems like everything she does has some ulterior motive...
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She's crafty. She isn't authentic. That is why she will lose.
Did you see the story on Huckabee having his "arkansas followers"?

He has people following him around to other candidates gatherings trying to "correct" what was said against Huckabee..
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is there something unusual about nominees' supporters following them around?!

there is nothing wrong here - this is a non-story - other than that she has supporters who feel strongly enough to travel long distances to support her.

why shouldn't she have a large crowd? she just won a caucus. nobody made a big deal out of obama having a large crowd the day after he won iowa.
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is there something unusual about nominees' supporters following them around?!

there is nothing wrong here - this is a non-story - other than that she has supporters who feel strongly enough to travel long distances to support her.

why shouldn't she have a large crowd? she just won a caucus. nobody made a big deal out of obama having a large crowd the day after he won iowa.
One word... "OPRAH"... lol.. that was his big crowd... LOL
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is there something unusual about nominees' supporters following them around?!

there is nothing wrong here - this is a non-story - other than that she has supporters who feel strongly enough to travel long distances to support her.

why shouldn't she have a large crowd? she just won a caucus. nobody made a big deal out of obama having a large crowd the day after he won iowa.
Yup supporters who are PAID to come along. People from another state being "bussed"(as in many people being transported). Voters who are PAID. "Stacking" the crowd for a media event. This is HOW she as you say "won a caucus"........Nah ....No problems here....do NOT look behind the curtain.
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Fox news is just as guilty...

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So your point is..........once you give an opinion about ONE thing you must sit down and shut up for the rest of your life. Is this fellow NOT from New Hampshire? Is there ANY substantiation of the "paid actor" claim? Any claim that it is a "totally fresh" group of participants? Was it perhaps deliberately an attempt to GET the same peoples opinions at a later time? By the way WHAT did he say? Again I repeat that if you are polled once then you must forever never be polled again? That darn selective outrage is back again. Apples and raisins to compare.
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Fox news is just as guilty...
Far from it...Rightwing bloggers were on this a week ago...The Left is trying to spin it as Fox's problem...

A focus group campaign plant or a professional undecided voter?

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Free Republic posters and several other readers have sent along a video showing an “undecided” member of Frank Luntz’s focus groups who showed up at both the Sept. 5 New Hampshire debate and last night’s NH debate. Anyone recognize the dude? HA’s Bryan and Allah mull over accusations that one campaign or another planted the guy. BP: “He seems more like a Greg Packer figure if anything, a legitimate private citizen who turns up in the press because he sets out to do that on his own.” AP: “Some of the Freepers are wondering if he’s a “professional” focus group member…Obviously that would be a problem.”

Yep. I think Frank Luntz, not any of the campaigns, is the one who needs to answer the questions about who Mr. Undecided is–and how he managed to end up in both focus groups. Transparency about how all of the people in the room ended up there would be wise.

Update 10:50pm Eastern. Here’s an explanation, sort of, from Luntz. The focus group is an “anthropological” effort, says Luntz, in which members often are invited back if they’ve changed their minds. Still doesn’t answer how exactly they find these people and who they are.
here's a video pointing out the same thing as yours, but the day before and without the crappy accusations...


Now...

First, Where does your video show that thw guy is an ACTOR?...he shows up in two fpcus groups and all of a sudden he's nullified from being undecided?...

Second, LISTEN to what he actually says...

The first time it sounds like he's endorsing McCain...But the second time he gives points to Romney...

Why would he be a plant?????...For WHO????...He's not consistant on what he says, so saying he's out there for a reason is stupid if you can't even come up with the reason...

Third?...Who says Fox had the knowledge?...Luntz heads Luntz, Maslansky Stategic Research, and he's been doing it for scores of media outlets for many years...

According to his bio...

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In the 2000 election cycle, Frank conducted almost two dozen focus groups for MSNBC and CNBC, including live sessions following each night of both party conventions and presidential debates. His reoccurring segments on MSNBC/CNBC, “100 Days, and 1000 Voices” won a coveted Emmy Award in 2001. He was a primary night and election night commentator for “The News with Brian Williams” on MSNBC in 2000 and for “Hardball” in 2004. Frank was the first and most vociferous public opinion expert to predict the GOP's demise in the 2006 congressional elections. Frank has conducted focus group sessions for all three major television networks, two of the three cable news channels, "PBS" and the "BBC". He also conducted focus groups for the "Wall Street Journal," "Newsweek," "The New Yorker," and "U.S. News & World Report."
Now knowing this, would anyone in their right mind think that...

a) He would put his years of credibility and career on the line by using an actor?...

b) There was some secret plan that included Fox when he has other outlets to serve also?...

Sorry...The video first shown just throws crap on the wall praying something sticks...
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