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FLORIDA PRINCIPAL: "NOT EVERYONE BELIEVES THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED"

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A high school principal in Boca Raton, Florida, told a parent that "not everyone believes the Holocaust happened," according to email records obtained by the Palm Beach Post through a public records request.

The email came amid a series of exchanges between the parent, who spoke to the Post on the condition of anonymity, and Spanish River Community High School principal William Latson.

The parent, a mother, had emailed Latson in April 2018 to inquire about the school's educational plan for teaching the Holocaust.

Latson replied, according to the newly released email messages, that the school sponsored a "variety of activities" to promote Holocaust education.

"The curriculum is to be introduced but not forced upon individuals as we all have the same rights but not all the same beliefs," Latson said in his emailed response.

The mother was reportedly stunned and sent a follow-up email to see if Latson had perhaps simply misspoken.

In 1994, the Florida legislature passed a new law requiring school districts to incorporate Holocaust education as part of public school instruction. The state's educational statutes require that topics like these be taught "using the books and materials required that meet the highest standards for professionalism and historical accuracy."

In his reply, Latson expounded on his beliefs about the propriety of Holocaust education in public schools.

"Not everyone believes the Holocaust happened," he wrote. "And you have your thoughts but we are a public school and not all of our parents have the same beliefs so they will react differently."

Latson implied that a robust endorsement of Holocaust education would violate his oath to be "politically neutral," adding that he does work to expose students to "certain things" without transgressing the will of individual parents.

"I can't say the Holocaust is a factual, historical event because I am not in a position to do so as a school district employee," he explained. "I do allow information about the Holocaust to be presented and allow students and parents to make decisions about it accordingly. I do the same with information about slavery, I don't take a position but allow for the information to be presented."
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FLORIDA PRINCIPAL: "NOT EVERYONE BELIEVES THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED"
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amazing.
not sure how this even happens.
But if Creationist parents want them to teach kids evolution ("millions" of years ago) and the facts that dispute it, watch the school Admin talk about "a good education" and how parents don't have a say. But with the holocaust it's about what some parents "believe" about historical facts? less than 100 years ago where there's film, photos and clear documentation to confirm it.
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FLORIDA PRINCIPAL: "NOT EVERYONE BELIEVES THE HOLOCAUST HAPPENED"

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A Republican, and why I don't belong to that party anymore.
One good thing since we all pay taxes to support public schools he will be dealt with. In private schools, they may or may not take up for these 'beliefs'
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A Republican, and why I don't belong to that party anymore.
One good thing since we all pay taxes to support public schools he will be dealt with. In private schools, they may or may not take up for these 'beliefs'
Just the opposite is true regarding accountability for school curriculum. Public schools rely on mandatory taxation insulating them from parents and the community. Private schools rely on parents choosing them to educate their children. Public schools rely on trapping students into attending. Some private schools have so much demand they have gone to a lottery for student admissions.
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Since when is History something of which we "believe?"
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Just the opposite is true regarding accountability for school curriculum. Public schools rely on mandatory taxation insulating them from parents and the community. Private schools rely on parents choosing them to educate their children. Public schools rely on trapping students into attending. Some private schools have so much demand they have gone to a lottery for student admissions.
Except for Catholic schools I have little regard for private schools. Home schooling I like, but these heritage foundation charter schools and private evangelical and Baptist schools sometimes lack accreditation and all of them are very lacking in the civics and history department, yet are allowed to take our tax money. At least with public schools parents can go over the school board's head to their congress or just call tv news. It works.
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Except for Catholic schools I have little regard for private schools. Home schooling I like, but these heritage foundation charter schools and private evangelical and Baptist schools sometimes lack accreditation and all of them are very lacking in the civics and history department, yet are allowed to take our tax money.
Salt you need to get better facts about "private evangelical and Baptist schools"
those in our area all regularly send kids off to ivy league schools, some boost 100% college acceptance rates, and students college testing scores much higher than the local and nation averages.
My daughter went to an evangelical elementary school, and in public high school was kinda shocked at how little the other kids knew history and civics wise. (plus the fact that none of them could write or read in cursive.) More than one of the evangelical middle schools here had mandatory Latin classes. And rhetoric.

Are there a few small evangelical and baptist schools as bad a there local public schools sure. But none that i know of that are worse.
I'd stack any random group of Christian school kids up against a random group of public school kids in a history and civics contest any day of the week.
Now if you want to ask them about SJW and Politically correct history well I'd give the win to Public school crowd. But real history and civics? phhfftt Christian school kids all the way.

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...At least with public schools parents can go over the school board's head to their congress or just call tv news. It works.
um... I'm pretty sure they can talk to the teachers, the principals , the oversight boards, and church denomination leadership local and national, and finally they can take them out of the school if they don't like the quality Saltwn.
Congress should have nothing to do with the educational content of local schools.. it's not their job.
But TV... Ok, So what stops evangelical and baptist parents from calling the TV news if things are really out of whack?
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Salt you need to get better facts about "private evangelical and Baptist schools"
those in our area all regularly send kids off to ivy league schools, some boost 100% college acceptance rates, and students college testing scores much higher than the local and nation averages.
My daughter went to an evangelical elementary school, and in public high school was kinda shocked at how little the other kids knew history and civics wise. (plus the fact that none of them could write or read in cursive.) More than one of the evangelical middle schools here had mandatory Latin classes. And rhetoric.

Are there a few small evangelical and baptist schools as bad a there local public schools sure. But none that i know of that are worse.
I'd stack any random group of Christian school kids up against a random group of public school kids in a history and civics contest any day of the week.
Now if you want to ask them about SJW and Politically correct history well I'd give the win to Public school crowd. But real history and civics? phhfftt Christian school kids all the way.

um... I'm pretty sure they can talk to the teachers, the principals , the oversight boards, and church denomination leadership local and national, and finally they can take them out of the school if they don't like the quality Saltwn.
Congress should have nothing to do with the educational content of local schools.. it's not their job.
But TV... Ok, So what stops evangelical and baptist parents from calling the TV news if things are really out of whack?
Good God, man you live in Virginia? Yes I would presume your state demands and your residents agree in educational excellence.
Idaho and Florida are another cup of tea. They don't vote to fund the schools our taxes already pay for yet try to give away money to charlatans who only wnt a brainwashed populace.
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um... I'm pretty sure they can talk to the teachers, the principals , the oversight boards, and church denomination leadership local and national, and finally they can take them out of the school if they don't like the quality Saltwn.
Congress should have nothing to do with the educational content of local schools.. it's not their job.
But TV... Ok, So what stops evangelical and baptist parents from calling the TV news if things are really out of whack?
You can protest the curriculum or lack thereof of a private school but there is zero accountability unless you get into lawsuit territory. In public school more citizens can be made aware of the problem and get together.
The parents cant do a lot if the private school wants to leave things the way they are.
We already have public schools and don't need to give their money to private companies. If they can't make it on the tuition and church donors they should be SOL.
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You can protest the curriculum or lack thereof of a private school but there is zero accountability unless you get into lawsuit territory. In public school more citizens can be made aware of the problem and get together.
The parents cant do a lot if the private school wants to leave things the way they are.
We already have public schools and don't need to give their money to private companies. If they can't make it on the tuition and church donors they should be SOL.
Not sure which planet you live on, but private schools are much more accountable to their clients (students and parents) as they have to compete for the dollars they receive from tuition whereas the public schools receive funding through state taxes regardless of the actual enrollment.
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