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Old 09-26-2014, 11:43 AM
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The banned books probably all promote some type of victim mentality or praise sexual deviancy. I do not support banning of these books, but they do appear to be books that promote a left wing agenda. However, banning books is not typical of the so called "right"

Liberal educators, on the other hand,have banned many many books that do not fit into their agenda, but it is not common knowledge. Try to find anything by Joseph Conrad or Jack London on a school curriculum. It will not be there.

Public libraries are also in the business of banning conservative books. Where I live there is a county library system where each municipal library is open to all county residents. Recently I had to go to four towns before I could find a copy of "Atlas Shrugs". In looking at the county library data base there is not one copy of anything by Ernest Hemmingway. Surly liberals are banning books in my county library system as well as in schools
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Well, as it has been pointed out the books were never "banned," they were simply suspended from classroom reading. If the child still wants to read the books they could go to the school library and get it.

Of course this is no worse than the democrats in the United States congress trying to rewrite the first amendment. Right Winston?
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The banned books probably all promote some type of victim mentality or praise sexual deviancy. I do not support banning of these books, but they do appear to be books that promote a left wing agenda. However, banning books is not typical of the so called "right"
contrarily yes banning books is mainly typical of the so called right. catholic schools give out whole lists every year of movies and literature the students shud steer clear of to save their immortal souls.

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Liberal educators, on the other hand,have banned many many books that do not fit into their agenda, but it is not common knowledge. Try to find anything by Joseph Conrad or Jack London on a school curriculum. It will not be there.
most school libraries have conrad and london books. never heard of their views being right wing. in fact london fought for some revolution in the lower americas and wrote about how the monetary/nation system blunted creativity and freedom.
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Public libraries are also in the business of banning conservative books. Where I live there is a county library system where each municipal library is open to all county residents. Recently I had to go to four towns before I could find a copy of "Atlas Shrugs". In looking at the county library data base there is not one copy of anything by Ernest Hemmingway. Surly liberals are banning books in my county library system as well as in schools
Most big libraries have everything even smut. If it is a small library with a tiny budget they will order something you are interested in but dont carry more than they think the local reading population wants.
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Well, as it has been pointed out the books were never "banned," they were simply suspended from classroom reading. If the child still wants to read the books they could go to the school library and get it.
They are banned from the classroom as of now or if you want to play semantics "suspended". never mind one class was already three weeks in on one of the books

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Of course this is no worse than the democrats in the United States congress trying to rewrite the first amendment. Right Winston?
Right what? I'm not going on a wild goose chase. What are you talking about?
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Where I live there is a county library system where each municipal library is open to all county residents. Recently I had to go to four towns before I could find a copy of "Atlas Shrugs".
I was looking for a book in our local library and it wasn't there. I asked at the desk for it, and they confirmed, but asked if I wanted them to check their transfer system. They confirmed that it was in their transfer system and that the book would be there the next day. The next day I got a call to come and pick up the book. I rather like that system.
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They are banned from the classroom as of now or if you want to play semantics "suspended". never mind one class was already three weeks in on one of the books



Right what? I'm not going on a wild goose chase. What are you talking about?
I understand how hard it might be to google something as simple as this so I did it for you. We also had a thread about it on the forum.

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I understand how hard it might be to google something as simple as this so I did it for you. We also had a thread about it on the forum.

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Highland Park ISD reverses book suspensions at high school

Superintendent Dawson Orr suspended the books earlier this month after parents challenged their content because of sex scenes and references to rape, abuse and abortion. The books could not be used for classroom instruction, pending a review by a committee of parents, teachers and students.
After the suspension, another group of parents and students fought the decision and an alumna started an online petition, which more than 2,000 people signed. The debate attracted national attention and criticism.
Orr apologized for the debacle on Sunday, saying that the decision to suspend the books followed questions from hundreds of parents.
“I made the decision in an attempt to de-escalate the conflict, and I readily admit that it had the opposite effect,” he said in an email to parents. “I take full responsibility for the decision, and I apologize for the disruption it has caused.
“All the titles that were temporarily suspended will be restored to the approved reading list,” he said.
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The Art of Racing in the Rain — the book they were reading in a 10th-grade English class — was suspended from the school district’s approved book list.
The Art of Racing in the Rain is one of my favorite books. Go Enzo and Denny! Should really be a movie.
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They're not banning...They're just pointing out the ones that won't be discussed...

And frankly, having parent-approved books (and having the choice to switch books) is light years better than having school districts shovel agenda-driven material down the throats of students WITHOUT parental approval (and sometimes, even parental knowledge)...

As a side note, I found the following logic, in bold, horrible...

Parents who say "I'd rather have my child have "hard conversations" with people paid by the government instead of doing the job of "parenting" myself."...
They shouldn't be deciding which ones will be discussed and which ones won't unless it is a case of a teacher making gross errors of judgment and assigning blatant pornographical literature to read. These are high school students in a secular, publicly funded school district. They see the same material on network television, hear the same material on the radio and get exposure to the same content all over. And I'm sure the parents don't like that either but tough titty. Grow the **** up, face reality and have conversations with your kids when the questions come up. No one said having a child was going to be convenient.

But somehow, since it's the school, the parents think that crusading down to the PTA meeting and forcing a few books off the curriculum makes up for their negligence in not addressing issues in a timely manner with their little darlings. It's all the school's fault we had to have a conversation about periods with Carrie when she was 14. wah wah wah.

No it's not. Carrie should have known about periods well before then because mommy should have stopped one day when she was buying her own tampons and thought: maybe Carrie needs to have one of these on her and understand why. She did just turn 12. She shouldn't have heard about it in the "Pig Man" for the first time. Oh, but now since we can't have her read the "Pig Man" (great book, by the way), she isn't going to hear about periods until hers comes unexpectedly in gym class and her first tampon is given to her when all the others girls throw them at her in the shower. And then the gym is going to blow up at prom and a whole class of students are going to die.

All because parents would rather control the school's curriculum rather than release information to their kids at a controlled rate appropriate to their age.
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