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Well this might just be the test America needs. But it won't work unless some other states approve of trying it. But two states are a start.

Life is bad enough I am not sure I would want to be in school these days as this was unheard of when I went to school.

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.Teachers in Ohio, Texas flock to free gun training classes

By Kim Palmer and Jim Forsyth | Reuters – 1 hr 6 mins ago.

CLEVELAND/SAN ANTONIO (Reuters) - School teachers in Texas and Ohio are flocking to free firearms classes in the wake of the Connecticut elementary school massacre, some vowing to protect their students with guns even at the risk of losing their jobs.

In Ohio, more than 900 teachers, administrators and school employees asked to take part in the Buckeye Firearms Association's newly created, three-day gun training program, the association said.

In Texas, an $85 Concealed Handgun License (CHL) course offered at no cost to teachers filled 400 spots immediately, forcing the school to offer another class, one instructor said.

"Any teacher who is licensed and chooses to be armed should be able to be armed," said Gerald Valentino, co-founder of the Buckeye Firearms Association. "It should be every teacher's choice."

The December 14 tragedy in Newtown, Connecticut, sparked a national debate about whether to arm teachers, prompting passionate arguments on both sides.

The deaths of 6- and 7-year-old school children led President Barack Obama to promise "meaningful action" to curtail gun violence, while the National Rifle Association has advocated arming teachers and placing trained guards in each of the country's 100,000 schools.

Ohio and Texas are not the first to offer no-cost arms training to teachers. Just days after the Connecticut mass murder, some 200 teachers in Utah underwent free instruction from gun activists.

Critics ridicule arming teachers as a foolhardy idea promoted by overzealous gun enthusiasts, saying it would only add danger to the classroom while distracting teachers from their job of educating children.

Supporters say an armed teacher could have stopped the massacre at Sandy Hook, where a 20-year-old man armed with a military-style assault rifle killed 20 children and six adults before killing himself.

"What we know is that these spree killers are looking for the highest death toll possible. They look for no-gun zones like schools," Valentino said. "It doesn't make sense that we guard our gold with guns and we guard our kids with hope."

The Buckeye Firearms Association, which successfully lobbied for 2004 legislation allowing people to carry concealed handguns, is offering all eligible state educators free admission to what it calls "an intensive three-day class where you will learn many of the same skills and tactics used by first responders."

Of the more than 900 applicants so far, 73 percent were teachers and 10 percent were kindergarten teachers, Valentino said. Sixty percent were male and 51 percent worked in high schools, he said.

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Well this might just be the test America needs. But it won't work unless some other states approve of trying it. But two states are a start.

Life is bad enough I am not sure I would want to be in school these days as this was unheard of when I went to school.

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I do not agree with that many firearms being that accessible in a school and being trusted to amateur marksmen. The last thing we need is an open gun fight in a school where children are running around panicked.

Station armed guards, etc. But I do not believe teachers should be setting the example of carrying firearms in school. Period.
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I do not agree with that many firearms being that accessible in a school and being trusted to amateur marksmen. The last thing we need is an open gun fight in a school where children are running around panicked.

Station armed guards, etc. But I do not believe teachers should be setting the example of carrying firearms in school. Period.
True to a point. Yet...................

What is the title to this news story? they are being trained and it can't be done in just a few hours.

So this is one where you wait for more news or read the entire news release, I think.
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True to a point. Yet...................

What is the title to this news story? they are being trained and it can't be done in just a few hours.

So this is one where you wait for more news or read the entire news release, I think.
I have a concealed weapons permit in Alaska and I went through the training to get it. I still wouldn't trust myself to carry a firearm in a school and use it properly in that setting.

I just don't think it's a good idea. But you are right...we need to see more news. And unfortunately, to see the outcome of it, we'll need to see it in action. It just doesn't sit well with me.
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Well this might just be the test America needs. But it won't work unless some other states approve of trying it. But two states are a start.

Life is bad enough I am not sure I would want to be in school these days as this was unheard of when I went to school.

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We do not live in yesteryear anymore. The liberal progressives have taken over, the schools are run by the federal government, the students know power has been taken away from the teachers, dumbasses are being turned out each year, and now we have psychos planning school massacres and doing them. You're right. I would not want to be in school these days, as a student, and less as a teacher. As a teacher, I would be in prison for turning inside out the first Neanderthal who might get in my face. Today, a defenseless public area is a cookie jar for murderous imbeciles.
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I do not agree with that many firearms being that accessible in a school and being trusted to amateur marksmen. The last thing we need is an open gun fight in a school where children are running around panicked.

Station armed guards, etc. But I do not believe teachers should be setting the example of carrying firearms in school. Period.
I do not think amateur marksmen need be hired for the schools either. I want professional, non-Barney Fife types. No uniforms either. Why give a psycho or his buddy a bonus of a uniformed dummy to shoot down first? Make him guess who is defenseless.
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I do not think amateur marksmen need be hired for the schools either. I want professional, non-Barney Fife types. No uniforms either. Why give a psycho or his buddy a bonus of a uniformed dummy to shoot down first? Make him guess who is defenseless.
I agree with that. I am pretty close to believing the military or a dedicated police force should do rotations at schools to guard them.

It's a really complex problem and it doesn't have any good answers.
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I have a concealed weapons permit in Alaska and I went through the training to get it. I still wouldn't trust myself to carry a firearm in a school and use it properly in that setting.

I just don't think it's a good idea. But you are right...we need to see more news. And unfortunately, to see the outcome of it, we'll need to see it in action. It just doesn't sit well with me.
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We do not live in yesteryear anymore. The liberal progressives have taken over, the schools are run by the federal government, the students know power has been taken away from the teachers, dumbasses are being turned out each year, and now we have psychos planning school massacres and doing them. You're right. I would not want to be in school these days, as a student, and less as a teacher. As a teacher, I would be in prison for turning inside out the first Neanderthal who might get in my face. Today, a defenseless public area is a cookie jar for murderous imbeciles.
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I do not think amateur marksmen need be hired for the schools either. I want professional, non-Barney Fife types. No uniforms either. Why give a psycho or his buddy a bonus of a uniformed dummy to shoot down first? Make him guess who is defenseless.
I have to agree with Manitou, if this is allowed. And I mean all Manitou said. As today in CA. I hear there was another school shooting.


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