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Honorable mentions go to New York City’s Taxi and Limousine Commission for driving out Uber’s online taxi-hailing service and to automobile dealers’ groups in four states for trying to have Tesla dealerships declared illegal. But the grand prize in this week’s unexpectedly heated competition for most creative use of government to stifle innovation has to go to Minnesota.

The Chronicle of Higher Education reports that the state has decided to crack down on free education, notifying California-based startup Coursera that it is not allowed to offer its online courses to the state’s residents. Coursera, founded by Stanford computer science professors Daphne Koller and Andrew Ng, partners with top-tier universities around the world to offer certain classes online for free to anyone who wants to take them. You know, unless they happen to be from Minnesota.

A policy analyst for the state’s Office of Higher Education told The Chronicle that Minnesota is simply enforcing a longstanding state law requiring colleges to get the government’s permission to offer instruction within its borders. She couldn’t say whether other online education startups like edX and Udacity were also told to stay out.

As the Chronicle notes, with admirable restraint, “It’s unclear how the law could be enforced when the content is freely available on the Web.” And keep in mind, Coursera isn't offering degrees—just free classes. Nevertheless, the startup appears to be playing along, posting on its terms of service a special notice to Minnesota users. It reads, in part:

If you are a resident of Minnesota, you agree that either (1) you will not take courses on Coursera, or (2) for each class that you take, the majority of work you do for the class will be done from outside the State of Minnesota.

Hear that, kids? The Internet is no place for learning. You can Facebook and Twitter and play World of Warcraft all you want, but if you want to study Machine Learning, Principles of Macroeconomics, or Modern & Contemporary American Poetry, you’re going to have to take it elsewhere. Maybe you can hit a wifi hotspot in North Dakota on your way back from buying fireworks.

Update, Oct. 19, 10:58 a.m.: George Roedler, manager of institutional registration and licensing at the Minnesota Office of Higher education, clarifies that his office's issue isn't with Coursera per se, but with the universities that offer classes through its website. State law prohibits degree-granting institutions from offering instruction in Minnesota without obtaining permission from the office and paying a registration fee. (The fee can range from a few hundred dollars to several thousand, plus a $1,200 annual renewal.) That means that it's Stanford, Columbia, Michigan, the University of Melbourne, et al. that are violating Minnesota law by partnering with Coursera to offer courses that Minnesota residents can take for free.

"It's not like we're sending the police out if somebody signs up online," Roedler adds. "It's just that the school is operating contrary to state law."

The law's intent is to protect Minnesota students from wasting their money on degrees from substandard institutions, Roedler says. As such, he suspects that Coursera's partner institutions would have little trouble obtaining the registration. He says he had hoped to work with Coursera to achieve that, and was surprised when they responded with the terms-of-service change notifying Minnesota residents of the law.

The thing is, no one is wasting their money on Coursera courses, because they're free. (Yes, says Roedler, but they could still be wasting their time.) And again, while its partners are degree-granting institutions, no one is getting a Stanford degree by taking a class or two on Coursera. At most, some classes offer a "certificate of completion." If every government took Minnesota's approach, free online education probably wouldn't exist, because the cost of compliance and registration in all 50 states, let alone other countries, would be prohibitive. Here's hoping that common sense prevails.

Minnesota bans Coursera: State takes bold stand against free education.
Me think$ there'$ more to the Minne$ota law than meet$ the eye..
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LOL You can't do anything for free. Big brother HAS to get his cut.

****ing dumbasses. Goddamn I hate our ****ing government regulation bull**** like this.
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LOL You can't do anything for free. Big brother HAS to get his cut.

****ing dumbasses. Goddamn I hate our ****ing government regulation bull**** like this.
Big Stupid is about to get cut off.
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Me think$ there'$ more to the Minne$ota law than meet$ the eye..
Minnesota? too many immigrants lately from states that downsized after they bankrupt their own governments.
this is stooopid and i'd challenge it in court if i lived there.
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I just looked at their website. They offer a wide variety of quality courses. NOt a complete degree offering but in depth and over view courses. Think I might take their History from 1300.

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As I've written elsewhere, it's true that the state didn't try to regulate Coursera per se--it just told Coursera that all of its university partners were in violation of state law by using Coursera. To comply with state law, each of those universities was going to have to go through the Minnesota Office of Higher Education's application and registration process, pay fees, etc. Minnesota wanted Coursera to work with all of its partners to do that, and Coursera declined, pointing out that it wouldn't be able to offer free courses if all its partner institutions had to pay all 50 states and who-knows-how-many countries in order to participate. So it changed its terms of service instead.
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Me think$ there'$ more to the Minne$ota law than meet$ the eye..
Yes. Despotic regimes and Parties always seek to control information.
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I just looked at their website. They offer a wide variety of quality courses. NOt a complete degree offering but in depth and over view courses. Think I might take their History from 1300.

https://www.coursera.org/
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I've looked over them and some other groups that do the same thing - I think they are a fantastic idea for anyone who wants to simply learn or doesn't have access or funds for traditional education. It's a shame to try and make it illegal
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I just looked at their website. They offer a wide variety of quality courses. NOt a complete degree offering but in depth and over view courses. Think I might take their History from 1300.

https://www.coursera.org/
scroll down for a list of areas of interest
I just checked this out, too. All my coursework for my MBA is boring and I kinda wanted to have something a little more fun to study. I signed up for:

Women and the Civil Rights Movement
AIDS
Immigration and US Citizenship
The Fiction of Relationships

I am really stoked!
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Yes. Despotic regimes and Parties always seek to control information.
This bad legislation no doubt but lets face it, You think any government is a despotic regime
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