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| Education & Curriculum Discuss Davis High fined for soda sales violation at the General Discussion; Originally Posted by faithful_servant Just intentionally responding in kind... I think you mean that you are resorting to logical fallacies ... |
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That's too much trouble. It's much easier to sit back and whine that there shouldn't be strings attached to government money when it's government money they want.
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I'm not the one claiming that "all we need is money" <to the tune of "All You Need is Love">, it's the left that makes that claim. Now, you have a situation here a school is being financially penalized for breaking a gov't rule and suddenly the leftists here stop caring about the money/kids. What changed to cause you to think that taking money away from a school will improve it's ability to educate our children??
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2. Why are you so determined to shift the blame for this problem away from the idiot who caused it?
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I'm not shifting the blame, in fact I've stated that this was the school's mistake repeatedly, so why lie about this?? Is it easier than telling the truth?? My ONLY concern here is what's best for the kids. The school screwed up, but it's the kids who suffer. You may be OK with that, but I'm not. It's a crappy rule that needs to be changed and you think that it's a wonderful thing that will lead to all of our children growing up fit, healthy and wonderfully intelligent (except for art and music).
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Aside from that, the only 'crappy' part of this rule is that it allows limited sales of cola's and candy. It should prohibit all sales. Any teenager who cannot go eight hours without an infusion of ridiculous amounts of sugar has a problem. If said teenagers parents refuse to deal with that problem, then I'm afraid the only 'person' with the authority to step in is the government. BTW...Please stop telling me what *I* think. You have no idea.
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Then you tell me "and you think that it's a wonderful thing that will lead to all of our children growing up fit, healthy and wonderfully intelligent". Both of these statements are about as wrong as you can get. In the first place, the government offering schools money providing the schools follow the nutritional guidelines does not qualify as a 'nanny government'. The rules were not arbitrarily forced on the schools. The schools AGREED to those rules when they willingly accepted the money. Secondly; No, I don't think that limiting the amount of junk food students can consume with the assistance of the school will 'lead to all of our children growing up fit, healthy and wonderfully intelligent'. Nor have I ever implied that I do. (BTW, when you have to resort to making up your opponents arguments, your own is circling the bowl.) Let me tell you what I do think. I think that if there was any other product on the market that resulted in a health care cost of 147 billion dollars a year, it would be recalled faster than you can leap to an unfounded, unsupported conclusion! However, removing all junk food from the market is neither feasible or possible. There are really only two things we can do to stop this problem. 1. Better education. 2. Encouraging people to form better eating habits at a very young age. So we ask ourselves: Where is the best place to launch a charge against this problem? Where can we reach the most people and do the most good? The answer is obvious. As far as the school punishing the kids, the SCHOOL not the government, I don't think they should be allowed to. I think that, failing all else, the parents of any student who loses out regarding their education because of the stupidity of this principal and school board should sue. On a final note, your attitude that 'someone else is to blame for the schools mistake' is a very big part of why we have a nanny government in the first place.
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Actually, that about abotu as nanny-state as it gets. It's telling the schools that there is money for them, but only if they follow the rules of the STATE. That is thevery DEFINITION of a nanny-state. Quote:
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