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And federal funding doesn't tend to be the major source of funding for most districts so again, the argument isn't nearly close to being accurate.
It's not the major source, but it is a critical source. Without it, most school districts would be in a seriously deep financial situation.
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It's not the major source, but it is a critical source. Without it, most school districts would be in a seriously deep financial situation.
Yet federal funding does not control curriculum for students beyond special ed.

And this article is actually about NEW JERSEY department of education and their question thus having absolutely NOTHING to do with federal funds or the federal department of education.
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It's not the major source, but it is a critical source. Without it, most school districts would be in a seriously deep financial situation.
For major cities Federal funing is a huge part of there budget maybe not so much the out laying areas but cities themselves are more dependant of Federal funding.

Two dozen L.A. schools to lose federal funding - latimes.com
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For major cities Federal funing is a huge part of there budget maybe not so much the out laying areas but cities themselves are more dependant of Federal funding.

Two dozen L.A. schools to lose federal funding - latimes.com
And in that article, like most districts, they are trying for county funds. Your article does not state that the cities are more dependent on federal funding. Just this particular school district. No need to mislead.
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And in that article, like most districts, they are trying for county funds. Your article does not state that the cities are more dependent on federal funding. Just this particular school district. No need to mislead.
It is not misleading lol. School district are dependant on Federal funds no matter how you look at it. If the Fed does not provide the funds need programs are cut. Hell it happened in my chioldrens own school district the Federal fundiong was not what the school district had antcipated and they cutback on funding the art program, music program, library funding. So you can pass whatever it is you think the school district does and does not do they depend on the Fed and if the fed don't provide then the schools cut. It is not just the L.A school district I can pull dozens of articles with the same results. The school have to meet the federal standards which means if the kids don't muster and make the grade the fed will cut funding. SO it goes back to in the end the Fed run the school district because the school district depends to much upon the fed for funding.
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It is not misleading lol. School district are dependant on Federal funds no matter how you look at it. If the Fed does not provide the funds need programs are cut. Hell it happened in my chioldrens own school district the Federal fundiong was not what the school district had antcipated and they cutback on funding the art program, music program, library funding. So you can pass whatever it is you think the school district does and does not do they depend on the Fed and if the fed don't provide then the schools cut. It is not just the L.A school district I can pull dozens of articles with the same results. The school have to meet the federal standards which means if the kids don't muster and make the grade the fed will cut funding. SO it goes back to in the end the Fed run the school district because the school district depends to much upon the fed for funding.
They choose to be dependent. Our local school district has escaped that by have a small local district tax and federal funding, if any, is gravy. Sorry that your school district isn't smart enough to better financially plan.
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They choose to be dependent. Our local school district has escaped that by have a small local district tax and federal funding, if any, is gravy. Sorry that your school district isn't smart enough to better financially plan.
Not just my school district but hundreds across the country. Which in the end makes most of them fed run because if the fed don't like it they won't give it.
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Not just my school district but hundreds across the country. Which in the end makes most of them fed run because if the fed don't like it they won't give it.
But the LA article you posted showed how LA was looking to eliminate the need for fed funding. So it seems that you have to chose to be dependent. Otherwise, you get off your duff and do something about it.
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But the LA article you posted showed how LA was looking to eliminate the need for fed funding. So it seems that you have to chose to be dependent. Otherwise, you get off your duff and do something about it.
I never found an article that said they did eliminate it. Look to find a way and actually having a way to eliminate the need for federal funding are two different things. As far as I can find they have yet to figure it out. Though I will say they all need to find a way to not use federal funding.
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I never found an article that said they did eliminate it. Look to find a way and actually having a way to eliminate the need for federal funding are two different things. As far as I can find they have yet to figure it out. Though I will say they all need to find a way to not use federal funding.
It showed that they were looking at local funding. That has worked in other districts across the nation. It's possible if your local community decides to get involved. At least that way, the funding is stable and not at the federal whims for your average student. But even the schools I've seen that have eliminated mainline federal funding, have some funding for special education. You can't get around that, but they can't control everything you do at that point, just the information related to special needs.

But in this case, the OP, it's about the state. Not the federal.
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