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Goshen - A small northern Indiana college has decided to stop playing "The Star-Spangled Banner" at sporting events after starting to do so for the first time last year.

Goshen College's board of directors says it will find an alternative that honors the country and the Mennonite Church-affiliated school's pacifist traditions.

The 1,000-student college has been playing an instrumental version of the national anthem, followed by a peace prayer, before games and other events. Some were upset with the school's decision last year because the song's lyrics contain references to using war and military might to defend the country.

Art professor John Blosser tells The Goshen News that there is much national pride at the school, but that most people aren't going to blindly accept what the country does.
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Just makes you wonder how "pacifists" would defend the country. Sing kumbaya to invaders?
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Just makes you wonder how "pacifists" would defend the country. Sing kumbaya to invaders?
"Pacifism is a wonderful thing...but it can get ya killed." - George Carlin
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even in college, you can't fix stupid.
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Some people have lost their grip on how this country came to be, why it came to be, and how it has remained as such.

I'm not particularly fond of war either, but when you stand for nothing........
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It's a private institution, and Mennonite. They can do what they want. I respect their values.
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Just makes you wonder how "pacifists" would defend the country. Sing kumbaya to invaders?
Just love them and show them that you care.
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It's a private institution, and Mennonite. They can do what they want. I respect their values.
I respect their values too, but it would take people like me to protect their values from aggressors, so they should thank their lucky stars that people like me care.
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I respect their values too, but it would take people like me to protect their values from aggressors, so they should thank their lucky stars that people like me care.
We need both types: pacifists and warriors.

Not every problem requires a military solution. And, not every conflict can be solved by peaceful means.

You should be thankful too, that pacifists prevent more of the people like you from being needlessly killed.
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We need both types: pacifists and warriors.

Not every problem requires a military solution. And, not every conflict can be solved by peaceful means.

You should be thankful too, that pacifists prevent more of the people like you from being needlessly killed.
Actually, it's not pacifists who prevent people like me from being needlessly killed. It's people like me who are willing to defend decency, honor, and civility, that enforce the ability of civil societies to exist.
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