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(CNSNews.com) – U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan, who oversees a federal agency that spent $134.8 billion in fiscal 2009, tutored kids as a young student but has never professionally taught inside a classroom.

Duncan’s experience in education includes time as the administrator of a nonprofit school and as head of the Chicago public school system, according to Education Department press secretary Justin Hamilton.

“Arne Duncan has experience running a nonprofit school for the Ariel Foundation and then moved into administration at the Chicago public school system and was the longest serving head of the Chicago public school system for seven years before he became secretary of education,” Hamilton told CNSNews.com.

But when asked whether Duncan had professional in-classroom teaching experience, Hamilton only mentioned Duncan’s experience tutoring kids as a young student.

“Well, I would say that -- actually, I would say no,” Hamilton told CNSNews.com. “(H)is classroom teaching experience started at a very young age, where his mother ran an after-school program for underprivileged kids in a church basement and he was both a student there and a tutor.”

The Education Department spokesman then abruptly ended the interview.
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Tell me again how the obama administration vets these people? Geez, Louise, you'd think they would get an honest to goodness teacher to head the Dept. of Education.

Oh, I can hear the lefties now and their defense of this guy, but come on now he was even a credible administrator!
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Tell me again how the obama administration vets these people? Geez, Louise, you'd think they would get an honest to goodness teacher to head the Dept. of Education.

Oh, I can hear the lefties now and their defense of this guy, but come on now he was even a credible administrator!
Who was the last Education Secretary that had been an actual school teacher?

From my quick check teacher experience isn't really a requirement.
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I've got to disagree with you on this one Mr. Lib. I don't think it is neccessary to have been a teacher in order to be an administrator. It certainly would not hurt, however.

Very often management does not come from the floor.
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While it's true that classroom experience isn't a requirement to be an education administer that also might point to a problem in our system.

As for Arne Duncan...
He oversaw one of the worst public school systems in the United States & now we have him overseeing the public education of the entire nation.
This does not look good.
Graduation rate...
College entrance & graduation rates...
all were below the national average in Chicago under Arne Duncan.
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Below is a link to the article I had cited in my opposition to Duncan when he was first appointed.
His lack of classroom experience doesn't disqualify him; but his record certainly should.
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Need we even mention the VIOLENCE rates at Chicago Schools.
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during his tenure as CEO, an all-time high of 66.7 percent of the district's elementary school students met or exceeded state reading standards, and their math scores also reached a record high, with 70.6 percent meeting or exceeding the state's standards. At high schools, Chicago Public School students posted gains on the ACT at three times the rate of national gains and nearly twice that of the state's. Also, the number of CPS high school students taking Advanced Placement courses tripled and the number of students passing AP classes more than doubled. Duncan has increased graduation rates and boosted the total number of college scholarships secured by CPS students to $157 million.
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The number of teachers achieving National Board Certification—the highest education credential available to teachers—increased from 11 in 1999 to 1,191 in 2008, making Chicago the fastest-growing urban district in this area of achievement.
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He seems to have made quite a few improvements to the Chicago school system.
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We spend a little bit of time in the summer in Chicago, just seeing the sights. The summer befor last we happened to be downtown at Milleniun Park for one of the summer celibrations. The department of education of Chicago had a large tent set up for their summer outreach and arts programs. So I took some time to talk to people working ther, the students and some of the parents.

This was before I even heard of Duncan so at the time I was really just interested in the state of education in that urban area. What I found was that from the little bit of conversation was that education was on the up swing from those that I spoke with. Chicago like most big citys have big problems. Most of those problems suck resources away from students that want or need those resources. Chicago has focused on those students through programs like the ones we saw at the park.

I believe that in general we have lost our way when it comes to education. I don't believe that Duncan is the man with the compass which is why he is the DoE secretary. Our schools are controlled by adnimistration more concerned with budgets than students and by teachers unions more concerned with their own jobs than the quality of education we give to their customers, the students. From my observations we have forgotten the purpose of primary education.
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I doubt that actual qualifications came into consideration (other than where he stands politically). Obama has no interest in appointing anyone that could actually do a good job. He just wants more people to support his agenda and keep a firm grasp on government institutions. No doubt Republicans will do the same thing.
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I doubt that actual qualifications came into consideration (other than where he stands politically). Obama has no interest in appointing anyone that could actually do a good job. He just wants more people to support his agenda and keep a firm grasp on government institutions. No doubt Republicans will do the same thing.
I find it amaziong that the same people who whined about Pres. Bush appointing people from the oil industry are OK with Pres. Obama appointing poeple from the Chicago political machine. We're talking about one the most corrupt cities in the country and this is the pool that the Pres. is drawing from. I keep expecting an announcment from the WH appointing Blago to a cabinet post.
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