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Old 01-13-2010, 10:58 AM
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The real solution is to dissolve the Department of Education and save $134b/year.
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Old 01-13-2010, 11:39 AM
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Amen to that.

But in the wacky world of US politics we will spend more money to make it bigger. Remember the primary purpose of the industry of education is not the education of our kids, it is to provide employment opportunity.
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Amen to that.

But in the wacky world of US politics we will spend more money to make it bigger. Remember the primary purpose of the industry of education is not the education of our kids, it is to provide employment opportunity.
Unfortunately, the public education system is so bloated with unqualified people, the only ones they're able to hire are the equally unqualified stuidents they "taught"...

"We're not going to teach you anything so you'll be so dumb you could eventually work for us."...
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I find it amaziong that the same people who whined about Pres. Bush appointing people from the oil industry are OK with Pres. Obama appointing poeple from the Chicago political machine.
Talk about one thing having nothing to do with the other...

You actually think "oil industry" is the equivalent of appointing politicians from Chicago..


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We're talking about one the most corrupt cities in the country and this is the pool that the Pres. is drawing from.
Any other guilty until proven innocent situations you want to endorse?

If you can point to corruption in a nominee's past, go for it.
Stereo-typing all politicians from Chicago is pointless...
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Now we know why he was chosen...

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Arne Duncan, U.S. Secretary of Education -- Biography

He seems to have made quite a few improvements to the Chicago school system.
It's not hard to improve some when you suck as bad as they did before him.
They still sucked under his leadership.

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During Duncan’s tenure, the Chicago district did not significantly increase its scores in reading, rising only one point on average from 2002 to 2007 – from 249 of a possible 500 in 2002, to 250 in 2007. The national average in 2007 was 263. Seventy-five percent of Chicago students scored less than 273 on the reading assessment.
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In math, Chicago Public Schools’ average score increased from 254 in 2003 to 260 in 2007. The national average for 2007 was 280. Seventy-five percent of Chicago students scored below 283 in the math assessment
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In writing, the average score for students in Chicago Public Schools increased from 136 out of 300 in 2002 to 146 in 2007. The national average in 2007 was 154. Approximately 50 percent of Chicago students scored below 148 in the writing assessment.
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In science, the Chicago Public Schools average score was 124 out of 300; the national average was 147. Three-quarters of Chicago students scored below 146 on the science assessment.
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If it were up to me, I put a student in charge of the dept. Teachers are self-serving and would never ask the right questions about the idiot teaching philosophies that are used in this country.
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Talk about one thing having nothing to do with the other...

You actually think "oil industry" is the equivalent of appointing politicians from Chicago..
It is when you're trying to run a scam out of Washington.



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Any other guilty until proven innocent situations you want to endorse?

If you can point to corruption in a nominee's past, go for it.
Stereo-typing all politicians from Chicago is pointless...
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It is when you're trying to run a scam out of Washington.
I guess the best way to defend one assumption is with another...


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Was I wrong?
People are complaining this guy is a politician from Chicago.
Automatically assuming corruption...
No evidence presented.
Simple conclusion based on stereo-typing...

Am I wrong?
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Talk about one thing having nothing to do with the other...

You actually think "oil industry" is the equivalent of appointing politicians from Chicago..
You're right. The oil people that were appointed had leadership skills and experience in economics. All that the Chicago Machine bunch that are filling the WH have is years of experience with playing the system. How foolish of me to try to compare the two.



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Any other guilty until proven innocent situations you want to endorse?

If you can point to corruption in a nominee's past, go for it.
Stereo-typing all politicians from Chicago is pointless...
How many of Pres Obama's appointees have had legal issues??
Where have been the biggest corruption issues amoung the large metro areas??
Talk to people who grew up in Chicago and they will tell you almost unanimously that the ONLY way to get ahead in Chicago is to play the game the Chicago Way and that means political gamemanship, nepotism, trading influence and flat out corruption at almost every level. Yeah, you can find this going on in most big cities, but Chicago and Detroit (possibly NYC) are the two places that have elevated it to something truly special. Rahm Emanuel and Blago are a prime examples of Chicago politicians.
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