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$2,000 Stimulus Checks, Section 230 Repeal Included in Mitch McConnell's Surprise COVID Relief Bill

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Majority Leader Mitch McConnell introduced a bill Tuesday evening which would offer increased $2,000 direct payments to individuals sought by Democrats and President Donald Trump, but adds legislation pertaining to social media companies and election fraud studies.

McConnell introduced the parallel pandemic relief bill on Tuesday, S.5085, which would include the $600 to $2,000 increase in checks to individual Americans, but tacks on a repeal of section 230 of the Communications Act of 1996 and funding for a commission to investigate voter fraud. Both of these additions to McConnell's surprise bill are demands which have been made by Trump for months. The Section 230 repeal would pull back protections for internet companies and allow such media companies as Twitter and Facebook to be sued if users feel wronged by messages on the platform.

McConnell has for months said he opposes added weekly unemployment benefits and only last week agreed with Democrats to add the $600 direct deposits for Americans struggling amid the pandemic.

Trump appeared to have predicted what McConnell's move would be this week after the White House came out in support, alongside Democrats, of the $2,000 stimulus relief checks to individual Americans. "The Senate will start the process for a vote that increases checks to $2,000, repeals Section 230, and starts an investigation into voter fraud," the president wrote in a Sunday statement, days before McConnell introduced nearly identical legislation.

"Big Tech must not get protections of Section 230!" Trump stated Sunday, in a request which McConnell appears to have granted by tacking the freedom of speech issue onto the $2,000 check stipulation. "Voter Fraud must be Fixed! Much more money is coming. I will never give my fight for the American people!"

Democratic Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer responded to McConnell's introduction of the bill as a "cynical gambit." Unclear in what exactly McConnell's legislative motives are, Schumer said the GOP Senate leader is attempting to undermine the $2,000 by adding Trump's election fraud and Section 230 repeal demands.

"Senator McConnell knows how to make $2,000 survival checks reality and he knows how to kill them. If Sen. McConnell tries loading up bipartisan House-passed CASH Act with unrelated, partisan provisions that will do absolutely nothing to help struggling families across the country, it will not pass the House and cannot become law," Schumer said in a statement Tuesday evening.

McConnell for months has rejected Democrats' push for increased weekly direct payments to unemployed and struggling Americans.

In a Tuesday tweet, Trump warned the GOP after McConnell blocked the Senate vote that afternoon. The president said Republicans would lose their Georgia Senate runoffs if incumbents Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue were forced to vote on the issue before the January 5 runoff.

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So if you want a bigger check just trade in your freedom of speech.
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So if you want a bigger check just trade in your freedom of speech.
Such entities like Facebook and Twitter have been censoring Freedom of Speech for years. They claim it's their right.

They haven't decided if they are a platform, a private company ruled by Agreed to rules, or a utility of social media.

Until that is clarified, legally, Section 230 is a pony show from both sides.

If you think this is a 'trade off' of money for the First Amendment, you really haven't been paying attention, for years.
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So if you want a bigger check just trade in your freedom of speech.
What freedom of speech are you complaining about? Thanks to their section 230 immunity social media plutocrats are censoring any information Democrats don't want published. Twitter has even suspended accounts for posting or forwarding information they dislike.

After supporting a 6,000 page spending bill nobody had a chance to read, slathered with pork, foreign giveaways and unrelated legislation Schumer cries about taking away the special liability exemption gifted to his technocrat pay masters. Waaa...
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So if you want a bigger check just trade in your freedom of speech.
Once again, you spout your ignorance of current events with enthusiasm. Freedom of speech in protected by the First Amendment. However, it only applies to curtailing what the government can and cannot do in regards to that freedom.

Section 230 is a carve out to social media that was to protect them from liability for users posting content that others found offensive. It was NEVER meant to be used by these companies to censor content which by definition would make these companies Publishers. Eliminating this provision would send a signal to Facebook, Twitter, etc. that if they wish to operate as a publisher, they should expect to defend their actions in a court of law.
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So if you want a bigger check just trade in your freedom of speech.
It does no such thing.It basically just means they can no longer claim to be a open platform if they wish to continue to censor opposing views. Democrats should just sign the bill. They have nothing to be afraid of, unless they think massive voter fraud will be uncovered.
Besides that weren't democrats the same people bitching about facebook not doing so called fact checking? If there ever was a conservative version of twitter or facebook then repealing section 230 would work out in the favor of democrats.
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I don't believe Section 230 protects any media from being charged with sedition.
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It does no such thing.It basically just means they can no longer claim to be a open platform if they wish to continue to censor opposing views. Democrats should just sign the bill. They have nothing to be afraid of, unless they think massive voter fraud will be uncovered.
Besides that weren't democrats the same people bitching about facebook not doing so called fact checking? If there ever was a conservative version of twitter or facebook then repealing section 230 would work out in the favor of democrats.
it is not "censorship" to demand you tell the truth about civic matters.
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Once again, you spout your ignorance of current events with enthusiasm. Freedom of speech in protected by the First Amendment. However, it only applies to curtailing what the government can and cannot do in regards to that freedom.

Section 230 is a carve out to social media that was to protect them from liability for users posting content that others found offensive. It was NEVER meant to be used by these companies to censor content which by definition would make these companies Publishers. Eliminating this provision would send a signal to Facebook, Twitter, etc. that if they wish to operate as a publisher, they should expect to defend their actions in a court of law.
your freedom of speech is not unlimited. like a late justice once said about the second amendment.
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What freedom of speech are you complaining about? Thanks to their section 230 immunity social media plutocrats are censoring any information Democrats don't want published. Twitter has even suspended accounts for posting or forwarding information they dislike.

After supporting a 6,000 page spending bill nobody had a chance to read, slathered with pork, foreign giveaways and unrelated legislation Schumer cries about taking away the special liability exemption gifted to his technocrat pay masters. Waaa...
you can't sue a platform for a user's words. mitch would change that.
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Such entities like Facebook and Twitter have been censoring Freedom of Speech for years. They claim it's their right.

They haven't decided if they are a platform, a private company ruled by Agreed to rules, or a utility of social media.

Until that is clarified, legally, Section 230 is a pony show from both sides.

If you think this is a 'trade off' of money for the First Amendment, you really haven't been paying attention, for years.
I have and it is.
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