So now you are changing the topic. You are including State and Local taxes into your equation as you state that it depends upon your state of residence.

Trump and the Republicans lowered the Federal Income tax that affected all of those that pay Federal Income taxes. FACT

If people is certain states see a rise in their taxes due to the change in the exemptions, that is a STATE issue. What that means is that the state that they live in needs to lower their taxes and learn to live within their means. People in low tax states should not be forced to pay higher tax rates so that people living in California, New York or Illinois can continue to vote for higher state and local taxes, but have them negated due to being able to reduce their Federal taxes thru the exemption process.

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A lie doesn't become truth, a wrong doesn't become right, and Evil doesn't become good, just because it is accepted by the majority. - Booker T Washington

Yes, the Federal government should lower spending. That is something that I have said repeatedly on this board.

However, lowering tax rates does not necessarily equate to decreased revenues by the Federal Government. As taxes are reduced, the economy picks up thereby increasing the amount of money being spent in the country thereby increasing tax revenues. This was proven under Reagan and is showing signs of happening again.

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To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead - Thomas Paine

A lie doesn't become truth, a wrong doesn't become right, and Evil doesn't become good, just because it is accepted by the majority. - Booker T Washington

I heard that the IRS was getting in record amounts of tax revenue.

I have also heard that this year will be a HUGE Christmas spending season.

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[QUOTE=saltwn;953126]no, you can't get money out of a turnip, we would get a stupidly minute amount of money out of welfare recipients. since at least the greek, roman, Chinese and Egyptian empires you have to
1) take a good census, and
2) levy taxes on those who have money (or in barter times the means for production like farms)[/QUOTE]

How much tax should we levy? And what does "Those who have money" mean. Everyone that has more money than me?

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