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Old 09-17-2018, 01:20 AM
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There's an organization called USAFacts that is dedicated to the truth without bias. This is a funny coincidence for me because I just heard someone give an example. Instead of doing analysis and statistics averaging they just counted the number of dead people (including demographics) over a period of years.
Turns out mortality age for American men is actually 70.2.
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I would give some thought to this study if the author(Avik Roy) of it was not the President and co-founder the of the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity. PLUS the extenuating circumstances of Daniel Garza sits on FREOPP's Board of Directors and has ties to the Koch Brothers.
Not a word attempting to refute the error in the calculation of the longevity statistics presented. Instead, it's attack the source as biased in an attempt to distract from the distraction you proffered up earlier.

Behind the shiny object of a pleasing line charting cooked up statistics the question of how to pay for Progressives fantasies of a big rock candy mountain run by Federal bureaucrats remains unanswered.
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There's an organization called USAFacts that is dedicated to the truth without bias. This is a funny coincidence for me because I just heard someone give an example. Instead of doing analysis and statistics averaging they just counted the number of dead people (including demographics) over a period of years.
Turns out mortality age for American men is actually 70.2.
That's because they didn't put the toilet seat down.
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And they want wall street to pay for it.
There you go, the real scheme of the Progressives is exposed, all the freebies are paid for by someone else. Tax wall street, they are rich and we are not so therefore we can plunder their bank accounts in the name of our collective rights.

Never mind that the stock exchange can pick up and move to another country to avoid the onerous taxes Progressives demand. Never mind the regressive tax rates needed to finance the freebies. Progressives simply promise great things without mentioning how to pay for it.
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"socialized medicine "
All good when you aren't paying for it, eh?
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Not a word attempting to refute the error in the calculation of the longevity statistics presented. Instead, it's attack the source as biased in an attempt to distract from the distraction you proffered up earlier.

Behind the shiny object of a pleasing line charting cooked up statistics the question of how to pay for Progressives fantasies of a big rock candy mountain run by Federal bureaucrats remains unanswered.

Would you like to see the CDC data on the subject for 2015? I have it somewhere. Here is a peek plus they have it broken down to the cause of death. .


life expectancy for males (76.3 years) was 0.2 year lower than in 2014, and for females (81.2 years), it was 0.1 year lower.
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All good when you aren't paying for it, eh?
Yep, the joys of socialism. Fleece everyone, and let the good times roll, until the money runs out, leaving no choice but civil war. Great Idea lefties.
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Yep, the joys of socialism. Fleece everyone, and let the good times roll, until the money runs out, leaving no choice but civil war. Great Idea lefties.

The price tag for the federal government would increase; BUTT! The total cost of health care would go down. More than 30 million uninsured Americans would get access to healthcare…and paying $$$ taxes.
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The price tag for the federal government would increase; BUTT! The total cost of health care would go down. More than 30 million uninsured Americans would get access to healthcare…and paying $$$ taxes.
News flash! Everyone had access to health care before Obama was elected.

Costs are still going up, up, and away. I didn't see my 2,500.00 deduct, but I did see a 2,500.00 increase after Obama care. How about we just keep putting more and more people to work?
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News flash! Everyone had access to health care before Obama was elected.

Costs are still going up, up, and away. I didn't see my 2,500.00 deduct, but I did see a 2,500.00 increase after Obama care. How about we just keep putting more and more people to work?
The increase this year was more than likely because of tRumpCare started with this executive order issued on Oct. 12, 2017. Say goodbye to health care from 23 million Americans, protections for people with pre-existing conditions.


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