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Old 09-15-2018, 09:30 AM
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The founders anticipated the dangers of direct democracy when they gave us a republic in the Constitution. Amending it to have Senators directly elected was a major step towards undermining the republic with the chaos of direct democracy. Taking the power of the purse away from Congress in favor of some overseer funneling down the candidates for appropriations would be another mistake.

Instead of a popularity contest for taxpayer dollars subject to secret algorithms like those deployed by Facebook and Google why not force Congress to practice basic fiscal responsibility with a balanced budget amendment? In one form or another it's a principle adopted by all states except socialist loving Vermont. Just like responsible families do Congress would have to make hard choices from competing interests. This way nobody has their right to petition government for redress of grievances subsumed by essentially a public opinion poll.
I've been saying it for years and will say it again, until we repeal the 17th Amendment, the Senate will continue to function as a body more concerned with getting elected and playing party politics, than the purpose for which the body was created by the founders.
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That was clear in my post.

The question I posted should be considered as alternatives to how budgets are currently formed.

I'll venture an example, the 10th Amendment might be used to allow for a national Referendum for the People to provide a guideline (not compulsory) to those who will have input into a future budget.

It would be a form of direct democracy, though as stated not have the power of law. Using a web page will allow the people to express their concerns, algorithms can weed them down to less than a dozen (I guess), which could be used in debates among those seeking their nominations to elected federal office (President, V President, Senate & H of Rep)
You are not making yourself clear.

The 10th does not permit national referendums. Rather the reverse. The power reverts to the state. The people of the state have a referendum. We vote. Those for whom we vote have the input. The remedy is to vote them out. Just a note. There are no national elections. All politics is local.

Direct democracy works only on the family level. A family may be able to decide which pizza to order, but web page or not, we cannot vote each time a President or governor needs a new pencil.

Last I checked, we have debates. And as you state, they are non binding.
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