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So a MW job is not their primary income. OK. And if they stay at MW for more then a month or two, then they are not doing the job very well, are they?

You still aren't seeing the underlying issue here, or you are just willfully ignoring it. But your choice, I guess, now that you are retired, it really doesn't have an effect of you.

Now, about those immigrants taking away American jobs......
no. a second minimum wage job. Or close to it like 9 10 dollars per hour.
Do you enjoy subsidizing Walmart? If you pay taxes you pay for their employees' food stamps. And over all you and other tax payers pay $6.2 billion to Walmart employees for some form of public assistance.
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no. a second minimum wage job. Or close to it like 9 10 dollars per hour.
Do you enjoy subsidizing Walmart? If you pay taxes you pay for their employees' food stamps. And over all you and other tax payers pay $6.2 billion to Walmart employees for some form of public assistance.
So now, according to you, MW, or close to it, is $9-10 an hour. You do realize that $9 an hour is about 25% above MW. I recommend you read my post #30 on the previous page.


Do you enjoy subsidizing other people regardless of where they work, or IF they work? FFS, WalMart is not the end all in wages, especially since they apparently increased their base wage to $11.00. https://money.cnn.com/2018/01/11/new...ase/index.html

It might behoove you to do a little research before you try to sling mud.


You are running with a false narrative, Salty. perhaps it's time for a different news diet other than #resist and #socialistdemocrats
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OK, quick jolt to today, shall we?
Are you making the same wages you were 10 years ago? 5 Years ago? I know I'm not, nor is anybody I am acquainted with.

What the reality is, is wages are not 'stagnant', it's inflation is happening faster then what the market was willing to pay for the labor. When someone's skillset is basic, they will be at the bottom of the ladder because pretty much everybody has that skillset. Move up, and fewer and fewer people will have that particular skillset, therefore there value goes up.
Yeah, I keep hearing how wages have been stagnant for the past 5, 10, 15, 20 years. It is really confusing to me to hear that because all the people close to me are seeing wage increases as they progress in their careers. Maybe overall, wages are sort of constant as new workers enter the work force and take the low paying entry level jobs while the experienced workers move up the ladder and get paid more with every step.

I look at my wages for the past 40 years I've been in the work force and on average my wages have doubled about every 7 years. I can hardly call that "stagnant". Inflation has eaten at that increase quite a bit, but in inflation adjusted dollars I am making quite a bit more.

One can't be a cashier or forklift driver or broom-pusher all their life and expect decent salary increases. One has to improve their skillset and advance on to the next level if they want to make more money and keep up with or beat inflation.
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So now, according to you, MW, or close to it, is $9-10 an hour. You do realize that $9 an hour is about 25% above MW. I recommend you read my post #30 on the previous page.


Do you enjoy subsidizing other people regardless of where they work, or IF they work? FFS, WalMart is not the end all in wages, especially since they apparently increased their base wage to $11.00. https://money.cnn.com/2018/01/11/new...ase/index.html

It might behoove you to do a little research before you try to sling mud.


You are running with a false narrative, Salty. perhaps it's time for a different news diet other than #resist and #socialistdemocrats
Amazon has similar statistics though I'm not sure it's as big as wmart.
make excuses for your tax increase and bezos' decrease if you want but you won't convince me a pig is a racehorse.
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Amazon has similar statistics though I'm not sure it's as big as wmart.
make excuses for your tax increase and bezos' decrease if you want but you won't convince me a pig is a racehorse.
Who received a "tax increase"? Can you show any documentation to back up your assertion? Or are you just parroting left wing talking points again without any real knowledge of the issue?
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Yeah, I keep hearing how wages have been stagnant for the past 5, 10, 15, 20 years. It is really confusing to me to hear that because all the people close to me are seeing wage increases as they progress in their careers. Maybe overall, wages are sort of constant as new workers enter the work force and take the low paying entry level jobs while the experienced workers move up the ladder and get paid more with every step.

I look at my wages for the past 40 years I've been in the work force and on average my wages have doubled about every 7 years. I can hardly call that "stagnant". Inflation has eaten at that increase quite a bit, but in inflation adjusted dollars I am making quite a bit more.

One can't be a cashier or forklift driver or broom-pusher all their life and expect decent salary increases. One has to improve their skillset and advance on to the next level if they want to make more money and keep up with or beat inflation.
16-18 dollars an hour was a decent wage when my spouse was hanging sheet rock in commercial buildings. he learned on the job and could get that salary on the next job. that was late 80s early 90s.
a nephew moved across the country to take 15 an hour in construction.
the same people you gave a tax break to killed construction for many years and its still not solid yet. they over built and helped cause the mortgage crises.
in hourly wages my son made 10-12 and more o a union job. he had to work for 7 an hour for 7 years and whatever raises minimum got because reagan policies revamped the wages bringing them down.
today kids are stuck in minimum wage jobs and more but less than their dads and grampas made. if there is a 10 an hour job well boy howdy the rent's gone up to 750 a month. they live at home or get four room mates two of whom dont pay their portion of the rent.
a car when my son started working was about a hundred a month , now about 3 for the same vehicle. gas was 108 and now is creeping back up toward 3 and some places is 3 again already.
what's wrong with our economy is republicans have blown it up or shut it down the last 40 years back and forth. a few good years under bill clinton and then dufus. now we get dufus on steroids.
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16-18 dollars an hour was a decent wage when my spouse was hanging sheet rock in commercial buildings. he learned on the job and could get that salary on the next job. that was late 80s early 90s.
a nephew moved across the country to take 15 an hour in construction.
the same people you gave a tax break to killed construction for many years and its still not solid yet. they over built and helped cause the mortgage crises.
in hourly wages my son made 10-12 and more o a union job. he had to work for 7 an hour for 7 years and whatever raises minimum got because reagan policies revamped the wages bringing them down.
today kids are stuck in minimum wage jobs and more but less than their dads and grampas made. if there is a 10 an hour job well boy howdy the rent's gone up to 750 a month. they live at home or get four room mates two of whom dont pay their portion of the rent.
a car when my son started working was about a hundred a month , now about 3 for the same vehicle. gas was 108 and now is creeping back up toward 3 and some places is 3 again already.
what's wrong with our economy is republicans have blown it up or shut it down the last 40 years back and forth. a few good years under bill clinton and then dufus. now we get dufus on steroids.
Waa, Reagan is to blame for my son's deadbeat roommate. Nothing but silliness.

Construction work, at least residential, has been taken over by the Spanish speaker. The workers are all citizens or green card holders, right?

Reagan signed an amnesty bill that was supposed to legalize 300,000, turned out to be more than 3 million. Today there are an estimated 11 - 20 million illegal aliens living within our borders with more arriving every day, providing cheap labor to undercut legal workers. Instead of whining about 30 year old policies and playing the partisan blame game, why not try solving the problem with a border wall and enforcing immigration laws. Oh wait, that would be agreeing with Trump making you a stooge of Putin.
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Amazon has similar statistics though I'm not sure it's as big as wmart.
make excuses for your tax increase and bezos' decrease if you want but you won't convince me a pig is a racehorse.
My only 'tax increase' is because I've changed tax brackets.... again.

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No. People have sh*t happen and have to take a second job and maybe all they can find is minimum wage. Not only did Reagan mess that up but he welcomed in more immigrants to take jobs away from desperately poor American individuals who did work in fields for farmers.
WHAT! So are you ready to admit we need to have borders?
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My only 'tax increase' is because I've changed tax brackets.... again.

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Yeah that sucks! I do what I can to keep my wages as low as possible so as to not be in the tax bracket with the "Truly" rich. I cannot get myself to pay more than 25%
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