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Economics Discuss Finland is killing its world-famous basic income experiment at the Political Forums; Originally Posted by GetAClue Exactly. And notice the number of prominent Democratic politicians that are now openly embracing Socialism. It ... |
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I know all about 'proving a negative', but I don't find it applicable to this particular discussion.
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After generations of socialist propaganda, perhaps the support for capitalism has waned. Capitalism itself is not failing. The last 18 months prove that beyond doubt to most open minded observers. Universal basic income is as big a lie to the working class as minimum wages. Based on the concept that standing in a bucket, and pulling up on the handle will raise your elevation. It simply raises the price of everything for everybody. It is why most socialist countries enjoy rampant inflation just before they collapse. If your government treasury is filled by the taxed efforts of productive workers, in a productive economy, how do you fill those coffers when everybody stays home? President Malcom said it today before Congress. "Freedom,,.. Democracy exists only when you have a healthy middle class." He did not say therefore everyone needs and income. He said everyone needs a job. To that he received a standing Ovation. Even Democrats stood.
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Socialism on the other hand, is being promoted by the leftist college professors that more than likely, have never held a meaningful job outside the educational field and are teaching based on "theory". To them, Socialism is the be all, end all to solve the worlds problems as they seem to ignore it's failures in every instance it has been tried. As for politicians promising to seize the means of production, look no further that Maxine Waters. Quote:
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![]() Just steal their profits and create a fund to destroy them... ![]()
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![]() Capitalism doesn't need marketing, attention to results is sufficiently persuasive. Its critics are reduced to demagoguery along with the implication socialism will magically solve these problems. Of course the facts that taxpayers are on the hook for an additional $25 billion in national debt for the GM and Chrysler bailouts while foreign manufacturer Fiat acquired a dumping ground for debt at bargain basement prices isn't mentioned. ![]() Socialism only has popularity because it sounds good, marketing. Capitalism only sounds evil if it is assigned blame for all problems and its performance is ignored. ![]()
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The true evil of Socialism has names. Can you say Charlie Gard or Alfie Evans?
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While FDR practiced a fascist style of socialism, contemporary Progressives advocate Federal government control over every aspect of business along with US participation in the global community as just another nation or as a previously rogue nation with a lot to make up for. ![]()
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If John says something and I reply, I am responding to John's statement. If I had been talking to somebody else, I probably would not have said the same thing... Thread after thread around here revolve around bad stereo-types that blindly drive a wedge between the parties and make discussion stupid and pointless. I've found it's impossible for me to discuss MY opinion on guns with people who want to assume I (or the monolithic left) want to take everybody's guns. It's impossible to have a discussion about the actual topic of this thread when people blindly (and inaccurately) claim that the left blindly supports it. And I think that's the point of some posters. They do not want to actually discuss the topic. They simply want to demonize the other side. ![]() When I first read the article I liked the following quote: "The new ’activation model’ law requires jobseekers to work a minimum of 18 hours for three months – if you don’t manage to find such a job, you lose some of your benefits" That is something positive to me. I like that idea and would love to understand more about how it's implemented. But it's impossible to have that discussion with people who are automatically assuming "the left" is the extremist view. Quote:
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