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We have seen that when the government declares war on something, the thing the war is being waged on increases. Good examples of this are the War on Poverty and the Drug War. Neither poverty nor drug use has decreased, and more people are receiving welfare than ever before. Look at how much the number of Food Stamp recipients increased under Obama.

I oppose government welfare, because there is no incentive to decrease the number of people who receive it. Bureaucracies expand and more money is funneled into bureaucrats' pockets; money that could actually go toward helping people without the many layers of bureaucracy that federal welfare policies create. The following article explains why government-mandated welfare policies don't work as well as private charities conducted at the local level, where people who actually need help can be identified and those who are merely indolent will have to do more for themselves.

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Fighting poverty is a favorite pastime of government because politicians get to portray themselves as champions of the poor. However, the unfortunate few tend to be far fewer in number when aid is extended privately instead of through tax funded programs.

Government Bureaucracies Benefit from Welfare Programs

Coercion is used to acquire the revenue (taxes) to finance welfare programs. As evidenced by the commission it retains prior to redistributing this wealth, government bureaucracies are one of the beneficiaries of these programs, and thus highly incentivized to claim a perpetual need for the programs. I live in Canada, where the number of federal government welfare program employees increased by 43% between 2006 and 2012. Clearly, it serves the interests of politicians and bureaucrats to create (impose) a culture of dependency. As Murray Rothbard wrote in For a New Liberty:

Since welfare families are paid proportionately to the number of their children, the system provides an important subsidy for the production or more children. Furthermore, the people being induced to have more children are precisely those who can afford it least; the result can only be to perpetuate their dependence on welfare, and, in fact, to develop generations who are permanently dependent on the welfare dole.
Economist Thomas Sowell wrote:

The black family, which had survived centuries of slavery and discrimination, began rapidly disintegrating in the liberal welfare state that subsidized unwed pregnancy and changed welfare from an emergency rescue to a way of life.
The government exacerbates the problems it is supposedly trying to solve.

Why Private Aid is Superior to Public Aid

Private charity was more effective than government welfare because private persons contributing their own money are highly incentivized to identify genuine needs. On the local level it is easy to monitor recipients to ensure they are making every effort to become independent. Indeed, long ago, much of the aid provided came from those who personally knew the recipients.

In contrast, centralized government bureaucracies are impersonal by nature. This does not mean government employees are uncaring and lack empathy. It means they deal with countless welfare recipients who they can’t possibly know personally, and perhaps are forbidden from doing so. Coupled with the fact that they are giving away someone else’s money, incentives for determining genuine need are very weak. Thus, the indolent know how to milk the modern public system, but were denied aid in the private system of the nineteenth century.

There is a big difference between those who are incapable of supporting themselves, and those who are capable but unwilling. If you fall into the latter group, you are undeserving of assistance — a concept a ten-year-old can understand. Yet, socialists are aghast at such a statement. It is not for us to assess personal character and habits, they say. When a person says they are in need, we must automatically open our wallets, but we must never judge (which, by the way, simply means to express an opinion). As William Gairdner unhappily noted in his book The Trouble With Canada . . . Still!, “Canada’s National Council of Welfare deplores any effort to distinguish between the “deserving” and the “undeserving” poor.”
These are just some excerpts, and you can read more here:https://mises.org/wire/get-governmen...lfare-business
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We have seen that when the government declares war on something, the thing the war is being waged on increases. Good examples of this are the War on Poverty and the Drug War. Neither poverty nor drug use has decreased, and more people are receiving welfare than ever before. Look at how much the number of Food Stamp recipients increased under Obama.

I oppose government welfare, because there is no incentive to decrease the number of people who receive it. Bureaucracies expand and more money is funneled into bureaucrats' pockets; money that could actually go toward helping people without the many layers of bureaucracy that federal welfare policies create. The following article explains why government-mandated welfare policies don't work as well as private charities conducted at the local level, where people who actually need help can be identified and those who are merely indolent will have to do more for themselves.



These are just some excerpts, and you can read more here:https://mises.org/wire/get-governmen...lfare-business
During the Great Depression, Neighbors et al would get together and "make up" (as we termed it then), Money, food, clothing, furniture or whatever to help. It was not permanent and no one expected such....BUT IT was well intended and DID provide help!!
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