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Wall Street reaps New Highs at closing Monday...........

What can happen from this point onward into the New Year? Should you sit this out?
Or buy into these profits? Will the markets continue to climb? Or is this the high before the crash as the New Year approaches?

Is this a sign that 2017 will be a good year for our economy? And what about the other top players in the world markets, how will each fare?

Plenty of questions which are easy to ask but hard to answer correctly.

Take your pick from the News Sources:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Dow+re...ZI&form=MOZSPG
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It's a reaction to the election, but I think it was even inflated before that...
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It's a reaction to the election, but I think it was even inflated before that...


Heck the only time the market isn't inflated is when it loses it's value.

Yet as the year draws to an end these questions will be on the minds of the big players as the New Years begins.
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I know one thing, there's no way that the banksters will let gold outperform equities for the year, stocks will be pumped and metals will be monkey hammered . . .

I think there will be a significant stock downturn in 2017; we should hope that it will be characterized as just a "correction". How long the sonovabitches can keep the plates spinning is the only question.

What to watch right now is the carnage in the UST bond market. China and Saudi Arabia are selling massive quantities of US bonds. Domestic entities that can sell are selling and buying equities. The hedge and pension funds that can't sell are getting slaughtered right now and the only reason tons of 'em haven't gone belly up is that they are allowed to mark their bonds to maturity -- if they were forced to mark to market this entire charade would collapse in short order . . . The name of the game now is liquidity, liquidity, liquidity . . .

I'm heavy cash right now having closed some positions Monday and yesterday. For me, the time for greed is over; I'm in 'protect what you have' mode for the foreseeable future . . . unless QE to infinity is coming, then I'm back in for a while but I don't see that, especially when they have a "conservative" to hang the collapse on.

I ordered more physical cash for the safe because there will be severe pressure (if not outright war) on cash soon. I will be eagerly looking for lows in the paper metal price and will be adding to my stack, just like December of '15 .
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Wall Street reaps New Highs at closing Monday...........

What can happen from this point onward into the New Year? Should you sit this out?
Or buy into these profits? Will the markets continue to climb? Or is this the high before the crash as the New Year approaches?

Is this a sign that 2017 will be a good year for our economy? And what about the other top players in the world markets, how will each fare?

Plenty of questions which are easy to ask but hard to answer correctly.

Take your pick from the News Sources:

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Dow+re...ZI&form=MOZSPG
oil is being negotiated by price fixers as we speak; they are disgusted with the low prices
pharmaceuticals is a safe bet because drugs are going to continue to rise when their are no regulations
look for more small hospital closures also to be bought up by box store hospital companies
housing prices will surge
the thing different with this bubble vs the Reagan one and the 2000s, is we are a much weaker economy due to the previous two also due to no increase in min wage so many years (and no following this trend by non union wages), wages are depressed and individuals will take a hit that feels worse than 2008, maybe as bad as some in the 80s, but this will be in all the states among the middle, former middle class and poor
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Funniest thing, Trump’s election was supposed to precipitate a massive stock market decline if not a world wide depression. Oops, the market surged to record highs so out come the dire predictions of economist failure manufactured to blame Trump prospectively. It is quite a contrast from Obama who received a Nobel Peace prize based on 2 weeks in office and won reelection based on meaningless "he did as well as anyone could have" slogan.
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The markets are a hard thing to predict yet so many do try...
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Wall Street reaps New Highs at closing Monday...........
What can happen from this point onward into the New Year? Should you sit this out?
Or buy into these profits? Will the markets continue to climb? Or is this the high before the crash as the New Year approaches?
Is this a sign that 2017 will be a good year for our economy? And what about the other top players in the world markets, how will each fare?
Plenty of questions which are easy to ask but hard to answer correctly.
Take your pick from the News Sources:
https://www.bing.com/search?q=Dow+re...ZI&form=MOZSPG
When Repubs were criticizing the economy, they weren't focusing on the stock market. They were looking at productivity and employment.
And they were right to look at those factors.

I think the following is something more interesting regarding the stock market future.
Fed Minutes: Get Ready for Higher Interest Rates
The latest minutes from the FOMC suggest rates will increase next month
It’s full steam ahead toward higher interest rates for the U.S. economy.

That’s according to the minutes of the most recent meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) , the committee at the Federal Reserve in charge of setting interest rates.

According to the minutes, most Fed officials said at their November 2nd meeting that it would be “appropriate to raise the target range for the federal funds rate relatively soon.” Furthermore, a significant number of FOMC members think the move should be imminent. “Some participants noted that recent Committee communications were consistent with an increase in the target range for the federal funds rate in the near term or argued that to preserve credibility, such an increase should occur at the next meeting,” the minutes read.
If the market (and employment) react calmly to the interest rate rise, that'll be a promising sign....
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When Repubs were criticizing the economy, they weren't focusing on the stock market. They were looking at productivity and employment.
And they were right to look at those factors.

I think the following is something more interesting regarding the stock market future.

I had already, 17th Nov. posted on the rate increase before I posted this on the markets.
I just didn't mention the possible rise in rates in my OP to this as part of some future problem.
As in the real world research is up to the buyers.


Fed Minutes: Get Ready for Higher Interest Rates
The latest minutes from the FOMC suggest rates will increase next month
It’s full steam ahead toward higher interest rates for the U.S. economy.

That’s according to the minutes of the most recent meeting of the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC) , the committee at the Federal Reserve in charge of setting interest rates.

According to the minutes, most Fed officials said at their November 2nd meeting that it would be “appropriate to raise the target range for the federal funds rate relatively soon.” Furthermore, a significant number of FOMC members think the move should be imminent. “Some participants noted that recent Committee communications were consistent with an increase in the target range for the federal funds rate in the near term or argued that to preserve credibility, such an increase should occur at the next meeting,” the minutes read.
If the market (and employment) react calmly to the interest rate rise, that'll be a promising sign....
It is in the Economies down about three titles. And you did good in your research. RATES TO INCREASE: http://www.politicalwrinkles.com/eco...rates-dec.html

It just wasn't discussed, period!
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